l Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:4785767b$1@linux... >>>>> Sarah - don't you realize they're all gay dudes anyway? Ha ha. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:4785751c$1@linux... >>>>>> Well, thanks, but I already got 'em online -----> >>>>>> http://www.chipndaleonline.com/ >>>>>> >>>>>> :) >>>>>> >>>>>> S >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Deej" <noway@jose.org> wrote in message news:4784e5e1@linux... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Sarah" <<a href="mailto
:sarahjane@sarahtonin.com" target="_blank">sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:4784d5d7@linux... >>>>>>>> Huh . . . ? Oh . . . uh, yeah . . . ahem . . . er, Hey! = Knock it >> >>>>>>>> off! Off topic! Off topic! Sexism! Monitor?! Where's the=20 >>>>>>>> monitor!? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> How's that? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> S >>>>>>> >>>>>>> WHEW!!! I thought you'd never show up. That works fine. Thanks. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> IOU a visit from the Chippendale boys. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ;o) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>=20 >=20 > ------=_NextPart_001_0022_01C853B2.23F768C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable </STYL
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al=20 size=3D2>http://www.chipndaleonline.com/ >>>>>> >>>>>>=20 :) >>>>>> >>>>>>=20 S >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>= >>>=20 "Deej" <noway@jose.org> wrote = in message=20 news:4784e5e1@linux... >>>>>>> >>>>>>&= gt;=20 "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in=20 message >>>>>>> <A=20 href=3D"news:4784d5d7@linux">news:4784d5d7@linux... >>>>>>>&amp ;gt; Huh . . . ? Oh . = .. . uh,=20 yeah . . . ahem . . . er, Hey! Knock=20 it >> >>>>>>>&amp ;gt; off! Off topic! = Off=20 topic! Sexism! Monitor?! Where's the=20 >>>>>>>&amp ;gt;=20 monitor!? >>>>>>>&amp ;gt; >>>>>>= >>=20 How's=20 that? >>>>>>>&amp ;gt; >>>>>>>= >=20 S >>>>>>> &g
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. Ended up going back and being replaced by a Soundcraft fully analog deal. Hopefully they've worked out that problem by now. a.. 30-in, 34-out audio/MIDI interface with 12 Onyx preamps a.. Two instrument inputs a.. Eight balanced line outputs a.. Dual stereo control room outputs a.. Four independent headphone outputs a.. S/PDIF and AES/EBU I/O a.. Dual ADAT I/O a.. Two FireWire ports a.. Includes Tracktion 2 and Final Mix software The key words I don't see here are *works with 3rd party apps*, *latency free hardware monitoring*, *warranty coverage and period* and *ASIO*.. or even a minimum host computer recommendation. Mac? PC? minimum RAM/Hard Drive/CPU/Firewire port spec? Surely some or all of that is at the Mackie.com site, but stinkwater hasn't done a very good job of translating that info to potential buyers. I'd also recommend doing some research on the firewire interface... if it's DICE, then it's nothing special and you can expect normalcy in it's latent behaviour (that means, a cheapo tascam/M Audio unit will likely be just as fast, or maybe faster, since it's got less traffic because of less channels). This is why (Chris Ludwig... correct me if I'm off here man) a RME firewire will kill the run-of-the-mill FW interfaces in latency times. AA "Terry Thomas" <god1stjt@alltel.net> wrote
in message news:47869c19$1@linux... > > http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Onyx1200F/I really like Barak too. I'm not really keen on some of his stated policies, but rhetoric is usually tempered by hard realities, especially when it comes to economics. Corporations are evil, etc., etc.....yeah, but small corporations employ the majority of people in this country, and with the exception of government and public education (pretty much the same thing), large corporations employ the rest. Tax them in a non-profit mode and you've shut the economy down. Barak is smart. Real smart. What I'm really, really afraid of is that some racially motivated white whacko maniac will kill him or some foriegn power will kill him and stage it to look like some racially motivated white whacko maniac killed him....and as totally surreal and incredibly evil that scenario is, it's a credible one. "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message news:4786d77d@linux... > Oh God, not Rudi, please. He seems to me to be running second only to > Romney in the thickness of his phoney politician veneer and the > shallowness underneath. "9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, etc., etc. . . " - > R. Giuliani in any public address. Definitely skeletons and trust issues. > > I like Barack-O, but I'm afraid his inexperience might allow him to be led > into some bad places, like war on Iran. > > I don't really like any of the rest of them anymore, but I do think > Edwards would be the least of the evils. > > They're all phonies and hypocrites to one degree or another . . . I mean, > come on . . . what kind of person strives for that kind of power anyway? > The kind who gets used to people being afraid to say "no" to them? ><br
hh.... >>>>> >>>>> One of our guys on a jobsite thought a 100ft 25pin D-sub cable >>>>> was going away (it was part of the old system) so, to make things >>>>> easier, he cut the end off... >>>>> >>>>> YIKES!!!! >>>>> >>>>> No, of course, it is going right back in the new system. >>>>> >>>>> So, I either put this cable (full of coax RGBHV etc) back together >>>>> or we are out 1200.00. >>>>> >>>>> Ever solder a large cable full of coax to a 25-pin D-Sub? >>>>> >>>>> More fun than a "discussion" with yer wife. >>>>> >>>>> DC >>>>> >>> >> >> > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080109/ap_on_re_us/katrina_floo d_lawsuits The ultimate in lawsuit insanity. The people of the US should sue these individuals and their lawyers for the cost of our tax dollars wasted in these ridiculous lawsuits. That amount alone could likely have built them all nice homes wherever they want to live.More entitlement welfare system thinking. This is what happens when a handout becomes a standard, rather than a hand up with a time limit and stipulations attached to it (like say, drug testing and actually looking for work?) I wonder too, could we as a people of the US claim a countersuit based on greed, stupidity and wrongful suit - you know, since it's actually money paid in taxes by the working class. Perhaps wrongful death since they'd kill the economy in shortsightedness, blinded by the 'me me' thinking. Well, the illegal aliens would likely find a politician to trade that fund for votes anyway, so it's probably a moot point. Hang the lawyers. (grrr....) AA "Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message news:C3AC4980.10592%dterry@keyofd.net... > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080109/ap_on_re_us/katrina_floo d_lawsuits > > The ultimate in lawsuit insanity. > > The people of the US should sue these individuals and their lawyers for > the > cost of our tax dollars wasted in these ridiculous lawsuits. That amount > alone could likely have buil
/> >> >> >> >> "LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Good Morning, >>> >>> I apologize if my statements come off as racist, they are not..Just a fact >>>from a Black man in America. Our view points are differnt because our cultural >>> upbringing. >>> >>> I disagree with you about giving and so-called gov freebies. First, it's >>> not the Govs money. It's our. So, we the people have a right to choose how >>> to spend it. Helping people in need is Trait from God. He (God) does not >>> turn his back on us when we ar e in need, so why are to turn a blind eye >>> to someone who is? >>> >>> Not to mention, Corp bailouts all in name ad cause of "good for the economy"..Oh >>> Yeah, what about all those who have been and are facing foreclosure.. Should >>> we not help them? >>> >>> You are speweing right-wing libritarian nonsense that keeps us poor folks >>> arguing over "scraps".Meanwhile the rich just keep getting richer and richer. >>> And all your types do is look at a brand or group of folks to blame it on.. >>> >>> It's all about the 'Distribution Of Wealth". $$$$ Nothing more, nothing >> less. >>> Those Billionairs love to keep us scabbling and blaming, pointing fingers, >>> while they continue to rape us of what little monies we try to save.. >>> >>> Unless you are rich, you have no right to "fight/debate a richman's fight". >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote: >>>> Lamont, don't take offense to this, but your post sounds as racist and >>>> prejudiced as I've heard, and certainly in the context that it is directed >>>> at me. I'm not going to get into this further as it's going nowhere and >>> I >>>> don't have any interest in sharing my personal life experiences online >> (that >>>> would have to be over coffee in person - perhaps we'll have a chance >>>> someday), but trust me when I say, when referring to me as "typical white >>>> man" or "your hero Ron Reagan" you have no idea what you are talking about. >>>> None. You are judging me without knowing me or any facts whatsoever. That's >>>> shortsighted at best, racist at worst - not an accusation, just an >>>> observation.
idle speculation or personal frustration, and the >>>>>> solution isn't even in the ballpark of a government program, policy, >>> or >>>>>> program. There are simple solutions that could improve the quality >> of >>>>>> education for each child in this country, but due to the complexity >> and >>>>>> sluggish nature of our education system (being federally tied), it will >>>>> take >>>>>> decades to make a dent, if at all. I've seen the program work - it's >>>>>> phenomenal and could do what no amount of federal funding could, and >>> for >>>>>> pennies per child, if not free. That's where personal/private innovation >>>>> is >>>>>> drastically more effective than waiting for a government to solve a >> problem. >>>>>> For additional reference, my son goes to an alternative public school >>> (IB >>>>>> program) and it is excellent. Granted, at the elementary level, problems >>>>>> aren't as bad as higher grades (though there are exceptions). I attended >>>>>> schools in all parts of our home town (as a product of bussing) suburban >>>>> and >>>>>> urban - some were good, some were just okay (5 different ones due to >>> our >>>>> 2 >>>>>> year system, from first to 12th grade). That was a few years ago, and >>>>>> people have changed; society has changed. Problems are more widespread >>>>> at >>>>>> earlier ages. Is that the government's fault for not throwing more >> money >>>>> at >>>>>> the problem? No, it's a failure at the family and individual level, >>> which >>>>>> transfers to every job and responsibility taken by any individual in >>> a given >>>>>> community or society. No one from federal or local governments, or >> local >>>>>> school systems is encouraging young teenagers to become pregnant, shoot >>>>> one >>>>>> another, or take drugs. That happens as a product of society and becomes >>>>> a >>>>>> part of every aspect of that society. We can make better opportunities >>>>> and >>>>>> better environments with enough money, but it only lasts so long. Schools >>>>>> that are now problematic, were probably great 20 years ago. Might be >>>>>> interesting to check the test scores and pass/fail rates for the history >>>>> of >>>>>> the school in your neighborhood. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you check what Ron Paul and the Republican Liberty Caucus proposes, >>> it's >>>>>> abolishing the Federal Department of Education - leaving schools to >> be >>>>>> managed at the state and local levels, which the pretty much already
kes more the open doors to become successful - it >>> takes >>>>>> determination. That's what isn't being taught in schools, at home or >>> in >>>>> our >>>>>> society. I know of other billionaires working on revamping the education >>>>>> system - not just the Gates Foundation. >>>>>> >>>>>> The point is, we can change our government until the cows come home, >>> but >>>>> if >>>>>> people who work and live at the local level don't want to change, then >>>>>> voting for change is a fool's folly. Making one's own opportunities >>> is >>>>> the >>>>>> most certain way to solve a problem. >>>>>> >>>>>> PS: Why do you say "your President"? Have you changed your citizenship? >>>>>> :-) >>>>>> >>>>>> We don't have to go on with this - probably enough OT threads for this >>> week. >>>>>> Email me offline if you prefer. I think I've about exhausted my time >>>>>> allocation for OT this month. ;-)) >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Dedric >>>>>> >>>>>> On 1/9/08 11:15 PM, in article 4785a9ef$1@linux, "LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Cont: I'm a big supporter of the Bill and Melinda Gates (re-inventing >>>>> ) the >>>>>>> US educational system. It's horrible. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My wie and I are agonising over what school to send our baby (2 year >>> ) >>>>> old >>>>>>> when shes turns five(school age). These suburban schools a horrible. >>> The >>>>>>> kids lack manners. Are having sex (in school). Cursing out the teachers. >>>>>>> Girls dress like strippers. Horrible. When we invested into this community, >>>>>>> we did not expect the local school system to be this bad. >>>>>>> ANd, we're told the private schools are not that much better. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> BUT, do i want to kill public education. For it'
tter pres. >> than public figure, but we really don't need another one of those >> after 8 years of Bush. >> >> Rudi - Best man to have when the chips are down. Not really >> a conservative, but looks like one compared to the Dems. >> Why is he behind? Skeletons in his personal life? Trust? >> >> Thompson - He doesn't care about the media or image >> management; cannot be bought. A true conservative. >> May not be electable. >> >> Huck - No legs. Scares me. If he is the candidate, the GOP may >> lose. >> >> >> I can only say one thing: >> >> This is going to be one wild and wooly campaign. >> >> DC >> >> > >Interesting laptop from Toshiba on demo at CES. http://crave.cnet.co.uk/video/0,139101587,49295004,00.htm Probably won't have much real world impact but I'd love all that FPU processing for audio apps. TCBNo shit, my man! The biggest problem this country faces today is not terrorism and it really never was. It may sound cold-hearted, but we only lost a few thousand people and some tall buildings. In the big picture that's fairly small potatoes. We lose that many every 4 days from mis-prescribed pharmaceuticals and every month in highway deaths. If we really want to save lives there ought to be "wars against" those mistakes. Our biggest problem right now is we are spending way more than we have, both individually and in the government. The dollar is crashing hard because the rest of the world now has an alternative in the Euro and they know our Fed Reserve just keeps on printing new dollars every time they feel like having an extra juicy profit. The citizens won't take the government to task for overspending because they are doing the same damn thing! Getting a new credit card is equivalent to the Fed printing up more money. We have to fix this, but the majority of candidates don't dare bring it up because it is sure to be poorly received by the electorate. Fox News was evidently afraid to have Ron Paul in the last debate because he was likely to shove his take-action-now fiscal viewpoint into the other candidates faces, and they wouldn't know what to say - they think the public is way too stupid to put future survival above their immediate desires. We gotta wake up NOW. TCB wrote: > Rudi is a New Yorker, deathly afraid of acting like one and pissing off a > bunch of people in what New Yorkers call (offensively, to be sure) flyover > states. The one thing he knows those flyover people fret about that he knows > anything about is terrorism, so he hacks on about 9/11. There is _no way_ > for a mayor of New York to be an ideologue. Ya just can't. When mayor Rudi > had an unfortunate tendency to legislate lifestyles (most famously when he > decided to enforce an age old rule that a bar had to have a particular kind > of license to have dancing, yes, there were bars with DJs where the bouncers > would stop you from dancing), but by and large was a pragmatic conservative > administrator. He also caved on some municipal union issues, but it's a little > tricky beating up on the fire department right after 9/11. I think he would > make a fine president during four years that are probably going to demand > a lot of shaking and baking on the domestic front, and I think he'd be fearless > taking on congress. One other reason I like Rudi, I think the only job he > ever wanted was mayor of New York, and if he could have kept that job I bet > he would have. That would make him the only president in our history for > whom the office was a consolation prize, and as one who thinks as dimly about > politics as I do I like that. > > I have no idea what Obama actually believes in. He harps (eloquently, though >
ursue justice. MR Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote: > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080109/ap_on_re_us/katrina_floo d_lawsuits > >The ultimate in lawsuit insanity. > >The people of the US should sue these individuals and their lawyers for the >cost of our tax dollars wasted in these ridiculous lawsuits. That amount >alone could likely have built them all nice homes wherever they want to >live. >Not like there's any precedent for killing black leaders... Chuck "DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote: > >"Deej" <noway@jose.org> wrote: >>What I'm really, really >>afraid of is that some racially motivated white whacko maniac will kill >him >>or some foriegn power will kill him and stage it to look like some racially > >>motivated white whacko maniac killed him....and as totally surreal and >>incredibly evil that scenario is, it's a credible one. > >There is a significant number of African Americans who think he will >be killed. God, that's scary. Both the fact that so many people think >it >will happen and the possibility that it could. It would be a very very >bad >day in America if that happens. I don't think it will. > >DC >Justice? 3 quad isn't justice, it's spiteful vengeance. There is a lot that happens in life that isn't fair and no human being has any control over. We can't sue everytime there isn't someone there to make everything okay for us. Sure, there were bad situations, in New Orleans but there have been a lot of similar or worse situations in smaller scales that no one even blinks an eye at, or files a lawsuit for. People like this would never survive a real national disaster where the whole economic, communications and/or transportation system collapsed. "mike r" <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:47880f7f$1@linux... > > Ridiculous numbers, yeah, probably in some cases. And, yeah, lawyers must > have swarmed to the occasion. And oh yeah, Katrina was one hell of an Act > of God. However, while I don't have a strong set of data or facts to rely > on, I think the debacles at the convention center and superdome are facts > enough: lots of folks, state and federal, screwed up. Other than > lawsuits, > I'm not sure what other ways folks can pursue justice. > MR > > Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote: >> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080109/ap_on_re_us/katrina_floo d_lawsuits >> >>The ultimate in lawsuit insanity. >> >>The people of the US should sue these individuals and their lawyers for > the >>cost of our tax dollars wasted in these ridiculous lawsuits. That amount >>alone could likely have built them all nice homes wherever they want to >>live. >> >The level of bulls*it about Katrina is simply breathtaking. Not one nickel... http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/earth/2315076.html DCHere's an example from the site; MYTH: "The aftermath of Katrina will go down as one of the worst abandonments of Americans on American soil ever in U.S. history."--Aaron Broussard, president, Jefferson Parish, La., Meet the Press, NBC, Sept. 4, 2005 REALITY: Bumbling by top disaster-management officials fueled a perception of general inaction, one that was compounded by impassioned news anchors. In fact, the response to Hurricane Katrina was by far the largest--and fastest-rescue effort in U.S. history, with nearly 100,000 emergency personnel arriving on the scene within three days of the storm's landfall.Scary stuff. I would like to think that there will be adequate protection... There are always crazies out there. DC "chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote: > >Not like there's any precedent for killing black leaders... > >Chuck >"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote: >> >>"Deej" <noway@jose.org> wrote: >>>What I'm really, really >>>afraid of is that some racially motivated white whacko maniac will kill >>him >>>or some foriegn power will kill him and stage it to look like some racially >> >>>motivated white whacko maniac killed him....and as totally surreal and > >>>incredibly evil that scenario is, it's a credible one. >> >>There is a significant number of African Americans who think he will >>be killed. God, that's scary. Both the fact that so many people think >>it >>will happen and the possibility that it could. It would be a very very >>bad >>day in America if that happens. I don't think it will. >> >>DC >> >But Don - they didn't arrive 3 hours after. And if they did, they wouldn't have arrived 3 minutes after, and if they did, the coffee would have been too hot and people would have burned their tongues and sued anyway. "DC" <dc@spamnersinhell.com> wrote in message news:47881cee$1@linux... > > Here's an example from the site; > > > MYTH: "The aftermath of Katrina will go down as one o
billion and half a trillion dollars > of underwater mortgage backed debt as of today. Will you prop up the holders > of those mortgages to avoid default? If Citibank become insolvent, will you > prop them up? Will you do nothing and let the market decide? If you plan > to bail out the lenders, borrowers, or both, what funds will you use?' It > would be pretty tricky to start jabbering about 9/11 or CHANGE when answering > that question. > > TCB > > "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote: >> Oh God, not Rudi, please. He seems to me to be running second only to >> Romney in the thickness of his phoney politician veneer and the shallowness > >> underneath. "9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, etc., etc. . . " - R. Giuliani > >> in any public address. Definitely skeletons and trust issues. >> >> I like Barack-O, but I'm afraid his inexperience might allow him to be led > >> into some bad places, like war on Iran. >> >> I don't really like any of the rest of them anymore, but I do think Edwards > >> would be the least of the evils. >> >> They're all phonies and hypocrites to one degree or another . . . I mean, > >> come on . . . what kind of person strives for that kind of power anyway? > >> The kind who gets used to people being afraid to say "no" to them? >> >> Just my opinion. I hope whoever gets elected proves me wrong. >> >> S >> >> >> "DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote in message news:47869a88$1@linux... >>> Lest anyone think I am singling out RP, let me say this: >>> >>> Hillary - machine politics, angry, corrupt, unelectable >>> >>> Edwards - Slimy kissup to Obama looking for a VP slot. Obama >>> will run from him. Zillionaire trial lawyer phony. >>> >>> Obama - Good guy, good heart. A bunch of scary ideas, and >>> some good ones. If he can rise to the occasion when he has >>> to face the real opponents (the GOP candidates) he could win. >>> I don't think it will happen. >>> >>> McCain - That man has a really bad temper. He scares me. All the >>> idiots who have characterized Bush as a cowboy, when he is >>> the most mild and cautious of men, are going to get a shock when >>> they replace a "cowboy" with a really pissed-off ex POW and >>> torture victim. I like him, but he has a serious temper, just watch >>> him closely at the debates. Yes, he has a right to it, but I am not >>> sure he has mastered it. >>> >>> Mitt - Too much of a suit for me. Too calculating, too little >>> moral center. McCain despises him and with good reason. >>> nonetheless he did a good job in MA. May be a better pres. >>> than public figure, but we really don't need another one of those >>> after 8 years of Bush. >>> >>> Rudi - Best man to have when the chips are down. Not really >>> a conservative, but looks like one compared to the Dems. >>> Why is he behind? Skeletons in his personal life? Trust? >>> >>> Thompson - He doesn't care about the media or image >>> management; cannot be bought. A true conservative. >>> May not be electable. >>> >>> Huck - No legs. Scares me. If he is the candidate, the GOP may >>> lose. >>> >>> >>> I can only say one thing: >>> >>> This is going to be one wild and wooly campaign. >>> >>> DC >>> >>> >> >> > >"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote in message news:47869ab3$1@linux... >> >> Better than a root canal? Worse? >> >> DC That's EXACTLY where I just got back from. UGH.I want to build a new comp for my PARIS 1 or 2 card system. Running for the most part nothing else so old school is OK very cheap is a must. What older MOBO and chipset combos would best serve these criteria. Any info SOOO appreciated as I am nearly comp illiterate. Thanks JimRidiculous numbers, yeah, probably in some cases. And, yeah, lawyers must have swarmed to the occasion. And oh yeah, Katrina was one hell of an Act of God. However, while I don't have a strong set of data or facts to rely on, I think the debacles at the convention center and superdome are facts enough: lots of folks, state and federal, screwed up. Other than lawsuits, I'm not sure what other ways folks can p
gt;> the frivolous ones. >> >> Like the physical cleanup itself, the legal cleanup will be another >> complex mess that has to be picked through piece by piece. >> >> Cheers, >> -Jamie >> www.JamieKrutz.com >> >> >> >> >> Dedric Terry wrote: >>> Justice? 3 quad isn't justice, it's spiteful vengeance. >>> >>> There is a lot that happens in life that isn't fair and no human being >>> has any control over. >>> We can't sue everytime there isn't someone there to make everything okay >>> for us. Sure, there were bad situations, in New Orleans but there have >>> been a lot of similar or worse situations in smaller scales that no one >>> even blinks an eye at, or files a lawsuit for. >>> People like this would never survive a real national disaster where the >>> whole economic, communications and/or transportation system collapsed. >>> >>> "mike r" <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:47880f7f$1@linux... >>>> Ridiculous numbers, yeah, probably in some cases. And, yeah, lawyers must >>>> have swarmed to the occasion. And oh yeah, Katrina was one hell of an Act >>>> of God. However, while I don't have a strong set of data or facts to rely >>>> on, I think the debacles at the convention center and superdome are facts >>>> enough: lots of folks, state and federal, screwed up. Other than >>>> lawsuits, >>>> I'm not sure what other ways folks can pursue justice. >>>> MR >>>> >>>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote: >>>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080109/ap_on_re_us/katrina_floo d_lawsuits >>>>> >>>>> The ultimate in lawsuit insanity. >>>>> >>>>> The people of the US should sue these individuals and their lawyers for >>>> the >>>>> cost of our tax dollars wasted in these ridiculous lawsuits. That >>>>> amount >>>>> alone could likely have built them all nice homes wherever they want to >>>>> live. >>>>> >Perhaps we should be paying attention to what has happened to our educational system relative to the rest of the world over the last 40 years? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMcfrLYDm2UWell crap!!......I was going to post the link above in another titled thread. It does have some relevance to the original topic though. Well..anyway...the link above is pretty fascinating. "Deej" <nowayjose@nada.net> wrote: > >Perhaps we should be paying attention to what has happened to our educational >system relative to the rest of the world over the last 40 years? > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMcfrLYDm2U > >"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:4788d628@linux... > Dedric Terry wrote: > I'm gonna disagree about that. One lawsuit doesn't mar another, legally > speaking. The courts will sort it out. That's their job. Of course - but care to take a guess as to how much tax money will go into 489,000 court cases? $100M? $300M? I was referring to public opinion, and to some degree, given the numbers, how much more scrutinity may be put into a defense that would set a precedent for other claims. > The only marring is in the court of public opinion, where those folks who > desperately want to believe revisionist history (slanted in whatever > direction that takes) will glom onto whatever seems to support their > preselected notion of what happened, and ignore the rest. Not sure I follow a specific point here (other than public opinion marring - yes, agreed, they've likely already tanked their sympathy card); but if the revisionist history idea is that some plaintiffs may be using selective memory to fuel their vengeance, and the absurdity of the numbers will jade the public into forgetting any valid concerns, then I agree. I still think suing anyone because your house was flooded in a major flood zone with a near ground level water table, in the midst of a major hurricane borders on a single digit IQ. I just think personally looking at a levee next to my neighborhood with water flowing above the level of my yard would run up a few common sense red flags - somewhat similar to living below Mt. Kilauea (no one does afaik) and watching lava flow past my house on a daily basis, wondering if I might have chosen a little safer location to enhabit *before* the ground starts shaking, instead of pointing toasty charcoal fingers after it's too late. On that note, to prevent boring the rest of the ng, back to soldering cables, discussing candidates with only 2 initials, and wondering what NAMM and Mac World will bring. ;-) DedricIs anyone using Windows 2000 successfully? If so, did you install the xp drivers? Thanks!Dedric Terry wrote: > > "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:4788d628@linux... >> Dedric Terry wrote: > >> I'm gonna disagree about that. One lawsuit doesn't mar another, >> legally speaking. The courts will sort it out. That's their job. > > Of course - but care to take a guess as to how much tax money will go > into 489,000 court cases? $100M? $300M? I was referring to public > opinion, and to some degree, given the numbers, how much more scrutinity > may be put into a defense that would set a precedent for other claims. > >> The only marring is in the court of public opinion, where those folks >> who desperately want to believe revisionist history (slanted in >> whatever direction that takes) will glom onto whatever seems to >> support their preselected notion of what happened, and ignore the rest. > > Not sure I follow a specific point here (other than public opinion > marring - yes, agreed, they've likely already tanked their sympathy > card); but if the revisionist history idea is that some plaintiffs may > be using selective memory to fuel their vengeance, and the absurdity of > the numbers will jade the public into forgetting any valid concerns, > then I agree. No, what I mean is that people like you and me and everyone else who sits in armchair judgment of events like this will take what we hear and filter it through our own confirmation biases. So some of us hear the news from Nawlins and say, "look, lazy shiftless, stupid people" and others will say "look, a huge failure of government letting down th