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DAW Benchmarks for XP32, 64 and Vista
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description: hout >>>>> that extra circuitry in the way. >>>>> >>>>> If there's another way to do it, you're gonna have to walk me >>>>> through it, i'm afraid. :( >>>>> >>>>> Neil >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Neil" <OIUIOU@OIU.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>OK, I've never done that, but I can give it a shot & let you >>>>>>know. >>>>>> >>>>>>Neil >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>"Deej" <noway@jose.org> wrote: >>>>>>>I'm using the latency measurement tool in cubase. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>"Neil" <OIUOI@OIU.com> wrote in message news:477bb0e7$1@linux... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I can try... how are you measuring the latency, though? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Neil >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Deej" <noway@jose.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>Hey Neil, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Would you ping a signal through an external processor on one of >&g
creator: emarenot
date: 2000-01-04T06:58:19-00:00

Re: DAW Benchmarks for XP32, 64 and Vista..Pro Tools 7.4 Vista Readyy Now..
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description: ixer window. > > > "Deej" <noway@jose.org> wrote: >> What is the ZLM function? >> >> >> "Neil" <IOOI@OIU.com> wrote in message news:477cf7a9$1@linux... >>> Could the ZLM function in TotalMix have anything to do with it? >>> >>> Neil >>> >>> >>> "Deej" <noway@jose.org> wrote: >>>> Haven't had time yet but I'll get around to it. I've got a feeling there >>> is >>>> some sort of glitch in the way the MF driver talks to Cubase. I'd lay > odds >>>> that the rea latency is around 1 ms as all my other stuff here pings >>>> through >>>> at around 0.91. >>>> >>>> >>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message >>>> news:477c7869$1@linux... >>>>> is that a true latency number????? >>>>> Have you tried playing out one track while recording it to another to >>> see >>>>> what the real world DA->AD number is? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> AA >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Deej" <noway@jose.org> wrote in message news:477c5668$1@linux... >>>>>> That's the one Neil. 0.01h? Man, that's extremely fast. since mine > said >>>>>> 0.02, I guess we're in the same ballpark. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for your help. >>>>>> >>>>>> Deej >>>>>> >>>>>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:477c4062$1@linux... >>>>>>> OK, I couldn't find a specific latency measurement tool other &gt
creator: AlexPlasko
date: 2007-11-11T19:13:20-00:00

Re: DAW Benchmarks for XP32, 64 and Vista..Pro Tools 7.4 Vista Readyy Now..
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description: big discrepancy, but the ADI 8-DS >> >>>>>>>>>>is >>>>>>>>>>routed through a MADI converter box where the Multiface isn't so >> >>>>>>>>>>maybe >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>there >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>really is that big a difference. It would be nice to have it >>>>>>>>>>confirmed >>>>>>>>>>somehow when/if you get the chance. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Thanks, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Deej >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > >http://www.focusrite.com/liquidmixchallenge/ Don't know if anyone has tried this yet, but it's interesting. There's also a downloadable phase reverse file for further consideration. I really like the Liquid Mix. To me, it sounds great as a plugin at any price point, but considering the price, I think it's fantastic... FWIW TedHi Neil, Other wise know as Direct Monitoring in Cubase. ZLM is the term Magix uses for the same direct monitoring function. This should only be a few samples at best. The 1ms round trip through the AD?DA sounds about right for a converter that old. The lower latency of the on board Multiface AD/DA sounds correct wi
creator: LaMontt
date: 2007-11-11T20:11:37-00:00

Re: DAW Benchmarks for XP32, 64 and Vista..Pro Tools 7.4 Vista
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description: ;>>>>>> than the one that you can use to measure/compensate for external >>>>>>> EFX... is that the one you're talking about? If so, I'm reading >>>>>>> 0.01ms AD/DA on my main Multiface, and that's looped through >>>>>>> the Portico Tape Sim... so it must be less than that without >>>>>>> that extra circuitry in the way. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If there's another way to do it, you're gonna have to walk me >>>>>>> through it, i'm afraid. :( >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Neil >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Neil" <OIUIOU@OIU.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> OK, I've never done that, but I can give it a shot & let you >>>>>>>> know. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Neil >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Deej" <noway@jose.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>> I'm using the latency measurement tool in cubase. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Neil" <OIUOI@OIU.com> wrote in message news:477bb0e7$1@linux... >>>>>>>>>> I can try... how are you measuring the latency, though? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Neil >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "Deej" <noway@jose.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Hey Neil, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Would you ping a signal through an external processor on one of > >>>>>>>>>>> your >>>>>>>>>>> Multifacia and let me know what kind of latency Cubase registers? >>> I'm >>>>>>>>>>> getting 0.02ms through my Multiface AD/DA's and 0.91 ms through > my >>>>>>>>>>> ADI >>>>>>>>>>> 8-DS >>>>>>>>>>> AD/DA's. That seems like a pretty big discrepancy, but the ADI > 8-DS >>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>> routed through a MADI converter box where the Multiface isn't so >>>>>>>>>>> maybe >>>>>>>>>>> there >>>>>>>>>>> really is that big a difference. It would be nice to have it >>>>>>>>>>> confirmed >>>>>>>>>>> somehow when/if you get the chance. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >&gt
creator: Dedric Terry
date: 2007-11-11T20:42:40-00:00

Re: DAW Benchmarks for XP32, 64 and Vista..Pro Tools 7.4 Vista Readyy Now..
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description: t;>>>>> $10k/song for records nobody else wants. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> And this will only get crazier. As bandwidth increases the value of >>>> data >>>>>>>> decreases. It's as simple and unchangeable as the laws of scarcity >> in >>>>>> microeconomics. >>>>>>>> I recently did a bittorrent download of the new version of Ubuntu. >> 700MB >>>>>>>> on a cable modem line and it was done in less than an hour. On my >> work >>>>>> network >>>>>>>> (100 mb/s pretty clean until it hits the student network) file transfers >>>>>>>> to/from other universities (we have quicker fiber links to some other >>>>>> research >>>>>>>> institutions) can get close to theoretical maximum of the weakest >> link >>>>>> in >>>>>>>> the network chain, in our case the 100 mb connection on our firewall. >>>>>> Soon >>>>>>>> enough that kind of bandwidth, or something close to it, will be available >>>>>>>> at home. Not sure what the RIAA will be doing then. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> TCB >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12 /28/AR2007122800693.html >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Given the fact that the only way to get uncompressed audio into your >>>>>>>>> computer or iPod is to copy it from a CD, this is bad news indeed. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Where am I supposed to buy a 16/44.1 download? Never mind how long >>>> it >>>>>>>>> takes to download... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We have always been able to copy our own records and CD's to cassette >>>>>>>>> for use in the car, why not for the iPod? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Let's hope the RIAA loses this one. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> DC >>>>>>&g
creator: TCB
date: 2007-11-12T06:38:06-00:00

Re: DAW Benchmarks for XP32, 64 and Vista..Pro Tools 7.4 Vista
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description: rtist (especially >>>>>> composers who don't play live), but they aren't the only possibilities. >>>>>> >>>>>> Along those lines, it's a bit tiresome for independent musicians to > hear >>>>>> that music should be given away for free to promote live shows, and > live >>>>>> shows should be done at a loss to promote the music. It would be easy >>> to >>>>>> burn the candle at both ends with that combination of common armchair >>>>>> advice. Also, not every artist aspires to be a T-shirt shop. >>>>>> >>>>>> As for the RIAA, they are not a forward thinking bunch. I think we > would >>>>>> agree about that. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> -Jamie >>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> TCB wrote: >>>>>>> Well, maybe I put that incorrectly. I should say the price of data > decreases, >>>>>>> but I stick to it. Just as there are some microeconomic situations > where >>>>>>> prices can behave oddly, on occasion this rule can be (temporarily) >>> breached. >>>>>>> Technological innovations in general are hard to contain. Gutenberg >>> invented >>>>>>> movable type in 1452. Even with typesetting books were a major PITA >>> to >>>>> produce, >>>>>>> but in comparison to copying them by hand using tempura ink on vellum >>>>> it >>>>>>> was a serious step in the right direction. By 1500 there were over > 1000 >>>>> printing >>>>>>> shops in Europe producing 20 million books yearly. So in fifty years >>> the >>>>>>> output went from nearly zero to 20 million, and books were well on > their >>>>>>> way to being commodity items. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't see how the 'content providers' are going to fight that dynamic >>>>> with >>>>>>> the internet. OpenBSD used to make a lot of their money from CD sales >>>>> because >>>>>>> it was a huge PITA to download over a slow connection. I still buy > the >>>>> CDs >>>>>>> to support the project, but I download the ISOs if I need them. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you're in the business of selling one and zeros I don't see how > that >>>>> …
creator: LaMontt
date: 2007-11-12T16:08:42-00:00

Re: DAW Benchmarks for XP32, 64 and Vista..Pro Tools 7.4 Vista Readyy Now..
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description: t; >>>>>>>> doesn't necessarily work that way. You're not just selling trees, > they >>>>>>>> are a carrier for the content you are selling. The carrier price > has >>>>> an >>>>>>>> impact but it isn't the main value. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As long as there is a demand for the content itself, there is value. >>>>>>>> When people show an interest in your content by listening/viewing > or >>>>>>>> acquiring it, they are reaffirming that it has value. Otherwise they >>>>>>>> wouldn't bother with it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Granted, when content becomes easier to acquire without paying, there's >>>>>>>> a marketing and business model challenge. But it's not insurmountable. >>>>>>>> Companies have created viable businesses with over-the-air radio > and >>>>> TV, >>>>>>>> and with web content. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>> -Jamie >>>>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> TCB wrote: >>>>>>>>> Are you even the _tiniest_ bit surprised by this? If so, you haven't >>>>> been >>>>>>>>> watching the RIAA closely enough. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> There are a few online places where friends of mine and I trade > reggae >>>>>>> dubplates. >>>>>>>>> We're talking super obscure records that had maybe a half dozen > 12" >>>>> copies >>>>>>>>> made for sound systems. They're hard to find but for true dancehall >>>>> dweebs >>>>>>>>> like me they might as well be made of gold. On top of that copyright >>>>> law >>>>>>>>> in Jamaica is roughly on par with that of Macedonia and China to > begin >>>>>>> with. >>>>>>>>> But we all are terrified we'll get sued at some point and be told >>> we >>>>> owe >>>>>>>>> $10k/song for records nobody else wants. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> And this will only get crazier. As bandwidth increases the value > of >>>>> data >>>>>>>>> decreases. It's as simple and unchangeable as the laws of scarcity >>> in >>>>>>> microeconomics. >>>>>>>>> I recently did a bittorrent download of the new version of Ubuntu. >>> 700MB >>>>>>>>> on a cable modem li…
creator: LaMontt
date: 2007-11-12T16:14:05-00:00

Re: DAW Benchmarks for XP32, 64 and Vista..Pro Tools 7.4 Vista Readyy Now..
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description: writing their congressmen about changing our trade agreements. >> >>Just my .02 >Hey, thanks. I did like what you sent me before a lot. I'm on my way to dreamland now, but I'll check this stuff out after work tomorrow. :) S "Deej" <noway@jose.org> wrote in message news:477d7613$1@linux... >I lost your e-mail address a recent computer crash. Here's a link to MP3's >of my old bandmates. > http://www.itsaboutmusic.net:80/catalog/advanced_search_resu lt.php?keywords=Space&osCsid=3f159f95cc02a314b1298dda1b4 f9495&x=9&y=8 > > You had commented in the past on how you liked the music. This is the > first time their music has ever been available for download. > > Scroll down to Space Opera. the first album was recorded in 1972. The > second one in 1998. It's fun to hear this stuff and remember when we used > to try to make a living covering only Byrds and Beatles material. > http://www.spaceopera.net/ > On the second album, I'm especially smitten with Mother Nature-Father > Time, Stolen Ground, Vieux Carre and Blavatski. > > I'm in the beginning stages of working with the surviving members of the > band with some new material. > > Enjoy, > > Deej >Hmm...look at Mackie, an American firm where their owners saw more $ in China too. Sorry to say but investments of capital have no native country at all, especially not when the world is being globalized the way it is. Not any congressmen in America, or else in the world can change that. And now we have Russia on good way back in time for the people, with Putin that's now going in front with the power with echonomic help from Russian oil and gas and also with good help from his old KGB friends from the old Sovjet. Putin is now controlling some of the biggest oil and gasfields in the world. With the oil and gaspower, Putin can really set Russia back in position for the top in the world. The western world are extremely needing Putins oil and gas and is doing nearly everything to be friend with him. If we're talking about a form for w…
creator: TCB
date: 2007-11-13T01:37:41-00:00

Re: DAW Benchmarks for XP32, 64 and Vista..Pro Tools 7.4 Vista Readyy Now..
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description: to this balance - it's like getting a kid addicted to candy and then telling him to exercise daily, eat right, and lead a balanced life, while slowly feeding him more and more costly candy to keep him on task. Doesn't work. The world needs to move away from oil as an energy source. It isn't renewable unless we live to be 10,000,000 and our population never grows (another problem that needs to be addressed - growth as a prosperity goal - it's a dead end as well). I'm seriously hoping to be able to go hybrid with our next cars. With US gas prices projected to pass $4/gal this summer (I know that's not much compared to the UK, Aus, etc), it's long past time to make changes. At this point, I think we are lessening the damage, not solving a problem, so we as a civilization are living on borrowed time. Just my .02. Sorry to further extend the OT drift of this thread. BTW - couldn't get the original link to work, but I found the videos on YouTube - interesting. Can't say I like Behringer more, or less - just interesting. Also interesting, apparently the new Euphonix controllers are manufactured in China - that's how they went from a $16k controller down to a $1500 version. Regards, Dedric On 1/4/08 7:37 AM, in article ve8sn35e6r6h30evkc9uo4n74olnt3lsto@4ax.com, "erlilo" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote: > Hmm...look at Mackie, an American firm where their owners saw more $ > in China too. Sorry to say but investments of capital have no native > country at all, especially not when the world is being globalized the > way it is. Not any congressmen in America, or else in the world can > change that. > And now we have Russia on good way back in time for the people, with > Putin that's now going in front with the power with echonomic help > from Russian oil and gas and also with good help from his old KGB > friends from the old Sovjet. Putin is now controlling some of the > biggest oil and gasfields in the world. With the oil and gaspower, > Putin can really set Russia back in pos…
creator: Neil
date: 2007-11-13T03:21:56-00:00

Re: DAW Benchmarks for XP32, 64 and Vista..Pro Tools 7.4 Vista
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description: way up for seeing John's new place, too. Still haven't made it over > there (except once long ago, the first time he ran that place). > > Saturday I'll be in Boulder to try and learn something about EV batteries > at the next Denver Electric Vehicle Council meeting. > > Cheers, > -Jamie > www.JamieKrutz.com > > > Deej wrote: >> "Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message >> news:477e7ad3@linux... >>> I'm pretty sure I could make it up that way Friday or Saturday - Sunday >>> might be tough >>> as I think I'm tied up that morning until 1 or so, and then again that >>> evening. >>> >>> I would offer to bring our Newfy for a doggy playdate, but probably not >>> a good idea for Crash at the moment :-( >>> >>> Regards, >>> Dedric >>> >> >> I'm sure Crash would love to play with your Newfie, but he's getting a >> bit lame in one leg right now so maybe not a good idea this goaround. >> >> I'm checking on doggie friendly hotels in the vicinity of the place we >> will be getting the work done. I'll let you guys know when I know. >> >> I want to see Macy's new studio while I'm there. Crash is a very well >> behaved studio hound. He's right at home amongst racks of gear, although >> he can create some pretty high SPL if he decides to offer up and opinion. >> >> ;o) >>Deej wrote: > Well, I think it's very nice of me to invite us over there ;oD, but just to > be sure, I think John may need to weigh in on this. Like anyone can say "no" to Crashbasket!? :^) Hey John M., are you around next weekend? Cheers, -Jamie www.JamieKrutz.com > ;o) > > "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:477e8596@linux... >> I'm way up for seeing John's new place, too. Still haven't made it over >> there (except once long ago, the first time he ran that place). >> >> Saturday I'll be in Boulder to try and learn something about EV batteries >> at the next Denver Electric Vehicle Council meeting. >> >> Cheers, >> -Jamie >> www.JamieKrutz.com >> >> >> Deej wrote: >>> "Dedric Terry" <d…
creator: Dedric Terry
date: 2007-11-13T03:24:54-00:00

Re: DAW Benchmarks for XP32, 64 and Vista..Pro Tools 7.4 Vista Readyy Now..
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description: ket!! Count me in. Right now it looks like Friday or Sunday could work. We could order takeout or just have lunch at the hotel so the Crasher doesn't have to ride around in the cold. Cheers, -Jamie www.JamieKrutz.com Deej wrote: > I'm getting Crashbasket fitted for an articulated stifle brace. > > http://www.orthopets.com/photo/index.html > > These guys are in Denver. I'll probably arrive Thursday night, get his leg > casted on Friday, they will build the brace Saturday, he will get fitted and > adjustments Sunday and we will and leave Monday. > > I'm probably going to be pretty hotel bound in the meantime since he's not > going to be extremely mobile, but I'm thinking about renting a minivan so > that he will have plenty of room and if it's not too cold, we could probably > grab a bite while he hangs in the van or something. He's short haired so I > can't leave him in the cold for too long. > > Deej > >"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:477e72b2$1@linux... > > We get to meet Crashbasket!! Count me in. > > Right now it looks like Friday or Sunday could work. > > We could order takeout or just have lunch at the hotel so the Crasher > doesn't have to ride around in the cold. > > Cheers, > -Jamie > www.JamieKrutz.com That would work. If we take him out in public we'll eventually get surrounded by throngs of people as everyone who sees him will first say "Wow!!!...that's the biggest dog I've ever seen" and then want to come over and pet him (something he loves), ask how tall he is, how much he weighs and those who have previously owned Great Danes will start talking about how cool their Great Dane was and some of them will start to cry. It always happens I'll let you know where we're gonna be staying. ;o)I'm pretty sure I could make it up that way Friday or Saturday - Sunday might be tough as I think I'm tied up that morning until 1 or so, and then again that evening. I would offer to bring our Newfy for a doggy playdate, but probably not a good idea…
creator: LaMontt
date: 2007-11-13T03:55:46-00:00

Re: DAW Benchmarks for XP32, 64 and Vista..Pro Tools 7.4 Vista Readyy Now..
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description: /> "Ted Gerber" <tedgerber@rogers.com> wrote in message news:477d2886$1@linux... > > http://www.focusrite.com/liquidmixchallenge/ > > Don't know if anyone has tried this yet, but it's interesting. There's > also a downloadable phase reverse file for further consideration. > > I really like the Liquid Mix. To me, it sounds great as a plugin at any > price > point, but considering the price, I think it's fantastic... > > FWIW > > TedWell, I think it's very nice of me to invite us over there ;oD, but just to be sure, I think John may need to weigh in on this. ;o) "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:477e8596@linux... > > I'm
creator: Neil
date: 2007-11-13T04:05:50-00:00

Re: DAW Benchmarks for XP32, 64 and Vista..Pro Tools 7.4 Vista
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description: been saying that for over a year now..Liquid mix really works and those >>eq and comps plugins sound great.. >> >>Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote: >>>Yeah, I listened to them and really could not hear a preference. I ran > >>>some simple tests with my UAD1 and my hardware UREI 1176LN and could not >> >>>hear a preference there either. I must say the Liquid Mix is a bargain > >>>for what all you get. >>> >>>Ted Gerber wrote: >>>> http://www.focusrite.com/liquidmixchallenge/ >>>> >>>> Don't know if anyone has tried this yet, but it's interesting. There's >> >>>> also a downloadable phase reverse file for further consideration. >>>> >>>> I really like the Liquid Mix. To me, it sounds great as a plugin at any >>price >>>> point, but considering the price, I think it's fantastic... >>>> >>>> FWIW >>>> >>>> Ted >> >Sounds great, John - next Friday it is! So Deej, what's Crash's schedule that day? When do you want to get together. Cheers, -Jamie www.JamieKrutz.com John Macy wrote: > I'm in--I just wiped the day free on Friday. I have a gig at Lannies that > evening with a late afternoon loadin, but am good till then. Saturday is > pretty hectic, as is Sunday... > > And Crash is welcome at the studio of course... :) > > > Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote: >> Deej wrote: >>> Well, I think it's very nice of me to invite us over there ;oD, but just > to >>> be sure, I think John may need to weigh in on this. >> Like anyone can say "no" to Crashbasket!? :^) >> >> Hey John M., are you around next weekend? >> >> Cheers, >> -Jamie >> www.JamieKrutz.com >> >> >>> ;o) >>> >>> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:477e8596@linux... >>>> I'm way up for seeing John's new place, too. Still haven't made it over > >>>> there (except once long ago, the first time he ran that place). >>>> >>>> Saturday I'll be in Boulder to try and learn something about EV batteries > >>>> at the next Denver Electric Vehicle Council meeting. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> -Jamie >>>> www.…
creator: Chris Ludwig
date: 2007-11-13T04:08:26-00:00

Re: DAW Benchmarks for XP32, 64 and Vista..Pro Tools 7.4 Vista Readyy Now..
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description: > on to others who might be excited to know there is an alternative to big > bus- I'm sorry. I meant big government running our lives. I think that if he were outfitted with a cardigan sweater he could sub in for Mr. Rogers, part 2. There's plenty about Ron Paul's message that I like, and plenty about it that is seemingly from outer space. He seems to be in total denial of some pretty major global realities and I would like to hear him explain exactly how he plans to convert our currency to the gold standard. As far as Moyers is concerned, I love the obvious bias in some of his questions ........so ...since I can't really say much nice, I won't say anything.........I know that's not like me, but I've sorta' got a soft spot for him from my days when I was a hard core liberal kinda' guy......before I stopped using mind altering substances. Well.........I'm certainly game. It's only about 4 hours from here. Closer, timewise, than Denver. ;o) "Neil" <OIUOIU@OI.com> wrote in message news:47814fc7$1@linux... > > "Deej" <noway@jose.org> wrote: >>Maybe Aaron and I can plan a Denver, part 2 next spring, or we could all > get >>together here or in some other cool place like Taos or Sante Fe and have > >>some fun. > > > Santa Fe would work for me, as well, depending on my schedule! > > NeilI agree with this. There is a breathtaking level of casual corruption in NYC (my hometown) but Rudi seems like he wants the job, not to be a rock star or to fulfill some fantasy, but because there is something he wants to accomplish. I also like Thompson because he says what he really thinks, and seems like he cannot be bought. DC "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote: > >I wouldn't be especially terrified of a Guliani administration, though I've >always wondered if anyone dirty enough to become (and stay) mayor of NYC >could be clean enough to win a presidential campaign. I'd certainly prefer >it to any of the Dems or Reps. > >TCB > >"Deej" <noway@jose.org> wrote: >>I'm still in the Guliani camp.…
creator: TCB
date: 2007-11-13T22:13:16-00:00

Re: DAW Benchmarks for XP32, 64 and Vista..Pro Tools 7.4 Vista
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description: > "DC" &lt;<A=20 href=3D"mailto:dc@spammersinhell.com"><FONT face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>dc@spammersinhell.com<FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>&gt; wrote in=20 message <A href=3D"news:47815dec$1@linux"><FONT face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>news:47815dec$1@linux<FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>... &gt; &gt; I agree with = this.&nbsp;&nbsp; There=20 is a breathtaking level of casual corruption &gt; in NYC (my = hometown) but=20 Rudi seems like he wants the job, not &gt; to be a rock star or to = fulfill=20 some fantasy, but because there is &gt; something he wants to=20 accomplish.&nbsp; I also like Thompson because he &gt; says what he = really=20 thinks, and seems like he cannot be bought. &gt; &gt; = DC &nbsp; I think we need someone who is = intimately familiar=20 with corruption and can at least manipulate it into something that can = achieve=20 something positive. To think it's going to go away is something totally=20 unrealistic. We are all corrupt.....even Obama's gonna' have chinks in = his=20 armour. Clinton would actually been considered much more = respectable&nbsp;if=20 he'd just admitted that he inhaled, took bribes while governor&nbsp;and = that he=20 lied about having sex with that woman. &nbsp; ------=_NextPart_000_00CB_01C8507E.31F154E0--No one says he has all the answers of course, but I don't see anyone that comes close to honesty and real issues. Barack seems more honest than usual but he doesn't really have any solid plans.I've done it...no problems at all. Go for it. Rod "Cujo" <Chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote: > > >Ug, Should I have any trepidations on ugrading form 4.6 to 4.9?Deej, I'm curious about exactly which "global realities" you think he does not understand? I have noticed a tendency in the mainstream media to portray Ron Paul as a kook or a crazy, without stating any specific reasons whatever. That kind of covert slander of a person's sanity is really slimey IMHO. That's what people do when they are really desperate to win an argument and they have no…
creator: LaMont
date: 2007-11-13T22:48:25-00:00

Re: DAW Benchmarks for XP32, 64 and Vista..Pro Tools 7.4 Vista
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description: just have to deal with a bigger mess on = a larger scale than we are doing now. >=20 > I have noticed a tendency in the mainstream media to portray Ron Paul = as=20 > a kook or a crazy, without stating any specific reasons whatever. That = > kind of covert slander of a person's sanity is really slimey IMHO.=20 > That's what people do when they are really desperate to win an = argument=20 > and they have nothing. >=20 > Anyway I am fed up with the apathy we face in this country about=20 > changing our government institutions and political system. I think we=20 > can do something about it, and I like that Ron Paul is standing up to=20 > say "I am the man who will do it." That takes a LOT of courage. >=20 ------=_NextPart_000_00F3_01C8508F.6B1A72E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> &nbsp; "Bill L" &lt;<A=20 href=3D"mailto:bill@billlorentzen.com"><FONT face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>bill@billlorentzen.com<FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>&gt; wrote in=20 message <A href=3D"news:478173bf@linux"><FONT face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>news:478173bf@linux<FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>... &gt; Deej, &gt; &gt; I'm curious = about=20 exactly which "global realities" you think he does not &gt;=20 understand? &nbsp; Bill &amp; Ron = says: BILL MOYERS: --who own, as you say, = a lot of=20 the media out there. RON PAUL: But I think it's still to = this=20 philosophy they believe in. They believe in war. And they believe in the = military industrial complex. And some of these companies that are mixed = in with=20 making profits off war. I think that's a distorted crock,=20 personally. BILL MOYERS: You remind me of = something you told=20 Tim Russet on MEET THE PRESS-- you talked about fascism. Look at this = piece of=20 tape. RON PAUL (on MEET THE PRESS): Were = not moving=20 toward Hitler-type fascism, but we're moving toward a softer fascism. = Loss of=20 civil lib…
creator: Dedric Terry
date: 2007-11-13T23:00:37-00:00