ch at my >>>>>>>>campsite >>>>>>> >>>>>>>on >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>the 1st I figured what the hell...better sooner than later >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Happy Canada Day! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Don >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>> >Hey JP- Nice to see you here. I want to tell you that a tune you wrote/recorded/ posted to the newsgroup _years ago_ still goes through my head. I think it was "Dreaming of Francesca" ("...things got real..."). I loved that tune. What album is it on, and how do I buy it? I'm near Toronto. Ted "jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote: > >you da man, James >thanks >jp > >"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>"jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote: >>> >>>I'm getting a G4 Quicksilver 733 mhz with >>>OS 9.2 installed. will PARIS run on mac OS 9.2? >>>Will I need to download a driver for PARIS 2.2? >> >>Yes, Paris will run on Mac OS 9.2. I would go to apples web site and upgrade >>it to 9.2.2. >> >>> >>>The proper way to run PARIS with FireWire-- >>>load PARIS on the resident HD along with the OS >>>and then record to the FireWire drive(s)-- is this right? >> >>Yes, or another internal drive. >> >>> >>>thanks >>>jp >> >I just read about the Gibson Centre - my dad's a Rotary club member and they're moving into the new hall. The piano is heavily advertised, and it's about time that Alliston get some kind of decent performance space. I'm actually from Tottenham but no-one knows where that is... went to Banting. I don't know your brother Jim, unless he goes by a different name. There's one Canuck in Franklin, TN, who I've done a lot of consulting for - he's got a Paris rig and absolutely no computer / usenet chops! Sandy "Ted Gerber" <tedgerber@rogers.com> wrote in message news:46883ce9$1@linux... > > Wow Sandy- > > I just got home from Alliston. I sold a piano to the newly renovated > Gibson > Centre on Tupper St, and Opening Night is tonight with Louise Pitre (Mama > Mia - Broadway) > in concert. I've lived in Orangeville for the last 20 years, where my wife > and I > are rasing our kids... > > There's an ex Canuck living in Nashville that my brother, Jim, and his > wife > Christine > know, who is also a Parisite, is this you? > > Peace, > > Ted > > > "Sandy Tipping" <tippsand@earthling.net> wrote: >>Alright, Canuck Parisites! >> >>Identify yourself - and, if you dare, from whence you hail! I'll go >>first: >> >>I grew up in Alliston, Ontario. I'm now in Nashville, TN. >> >>Happy Canada Day... Crown and Coke awaits... >> >>Sandy >>"Ted Gerber" <tedgerber@rogers.com> wrote in message >>news:4686b13d$1@linux... >>> >>> Heh heh heh heh >>> >>> rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>at home cooking.... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>On 30 Jun 2007 05:16:11 +1000, "Ted Gerber" <tedgerber@rogers.com> >>>>wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>>Happy Canada Day back to all. Where's your beach? >>>>> >>>>>Ted >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote: >>>>>>Granted a tad premature but as I'll sitting on the beach at my >>>>>>campsite >>>>>on >>>>>>the 1st I figured what the hell...better sooner than later >>>>>> >>>>>>Happy Canada Day! >>>>>> >>>>>>Don >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >And how do all the Canadians feel this morning? (Personally, just fine, but me and the Crown have a respectful relationship.) Sandy "Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:468842d8$1@linux... > Born and raised in Deep Cove, North Vancouver, now residing in Calgary. > > David. > > Sandy Tipping wrote: > >> Alright, Canuck Parisites! >> >> Identify yourself - and, if you dare, from whence you hail! I'll go >> first: >> >> I grew up in Alliston, Ontario. I'm now in Nashville, TN. >> >> Happy Canada Day... Crown and Coke awaits... >> >> Sandy >> "Ted Gerber" <tedgerber@rogers.com> wrote in message >> news:4686b13d$1@linux... >> >>>Heh heh heh heh >>> >>>rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>>at home cooking.... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>On 30 Jun 2007 05:16:11 +1000, "Ted Gerber" <tedgerber@rogers.com> >>>>wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>Happy Canada Day back to all. Where's your beach? >>>>> >>>>>Ted >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Granted a tad premature but as I'll sitting on the beach at my >>>>>>campsite >>>>> >>>>>on >>>>> >>>>>>the 1st I figured what the hell...better sooner than later >>>>>> >>>>>>Happy Canada Day! >>>>>> >>>>>>Don >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>If you have SX you have the Prosoniq Time Factory algorithms built in. I think they sound as good as anything and better than most. TCB "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote: > > >I need to slow down the tempo of two songs but at the multitrack >level. I've heard Waves Sound Shifter is very good compared >to Melodyne. Almost no artifacts.=20 >http://www.waves.com/Content.aspx?id=3D284 >Are there any others I should look at before dumping large cash on one? > >Sound Shifter comes as a full working demo. I wonder if Paris >will like it? I want to use it stand alone if possible too. >Cubase 2 is also a way to go for me. > >As always thanks for your help, >Tom > > >I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you? >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html > > > > charset=3Diso-8859-1"> > > > > > I need to slow down the tempo of two = >songs but at=20 >the multitrack > level. I've heard Waves = >Sound Shifter is=20 >very good compared > to Melodyne. Almost no=20 >artifacts. > <A=20 >href=3D"http://www.waves.com/Content.aspx?id=3D284">http://www.waves.com/= >Content.aspx?id=3D284 > Are there any others I should = ><FONT=20 >face=3DArial size=3D2>look at before dumping size=3D2>large=20 >cash on one? > > Sound Shifter comes as a full working = >demo. I=20 >wonder if Paris > will like it? I want to use it = >stand alone if=20 >possible too. > Cubase 2 is also a way to go for = >me. > > As always thanks for your = >help, > Tom > I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, = >and=20 >you? <A=20 >href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer= >.html > >This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0084_01C7BC9E.22231E50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Thad, Cubase SX 2.0 ? I do have 4.0 but am afraid to install because of the possible problems. Tom "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:468903d6$1@linux... If you have SX you have the Prosoniq Time Factory algorithms built in. = I think they sound as good as anything and better than most. TCB "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote: > > >I need to slow down the tempo of two songs but at the multitrack >level. I've heard Waves Sound Shifter is very good compared >to Melodyne. Almost no artifacts.=3D20 >http://www.waves.com/Content.aspx?id=3D3D284 >Are there any others I should look at before dumping large cash on = one? > >Sound Shifter comes as a full working demo. I wonder if Paris >will like it? I want to use it stand alone if possible too. >Cubase 2 is also a way to go for me. > >As always thanks for your help, >Tom > > >I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you? >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20 > > > > charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> > > > > > I need to slow down the tempo of = two =3D >songs but at=3D20 >the multitrack > level. I've heard Waves =3D >Sound Shifter is=3D20 >very good compared > to Melodyne. Almost no=3D20 >artifacts. > <A=3D20 = >href=3D3D"http://www.waves.com/Content.aspx?id=3D3D284">http://www.waves= ..com/=3D >Content.aspx?id=3D3D284 > Are there any others I should = =3D ><FONT=3D20 >face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>look at before dumping size=3D3D2>large=3D20 >cash on one? > > Sound Shifter comes as a full = working =3D >demo. I=3D20 >wonder if Paris > will like it? I want to use it = =3D >stand alone if=3D20 >possible too. > Cubase 2 is also a way to go for = =3D >me. > > As always thanks for your =3D >help, > Tom > I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight = spam, =3D >and=3D20 >you? <A=3D20 = >href=3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re= fer=3D >.html > > ------=_NextPart_000_0084_01C7BC9E.22231E50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Thad, Cubase SX 2.0 ? I do have 4.0 but am afraid to install = because=20 of the possible problems. Tom <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com>=20 wrote in message <A=20 = href=3D"news:468903d6$1@linux">news:468903d6$1@linux... If = you have=20 SX you have the Prosoniq Time Factory algorithms built in. I = think they=20 sound as good as anything and better than most. TCB "Tom = Bruhl"=20 <arpegio@comcast.net> = wrote: > > >I need to slow down the tempo of two = songs but=20 at the multitrack >level. I've heard Waves Sound Shifter = is very=20 good compared >to Melodyne. Almost no=20 = artifacts.=3D20 >http://www.waves.com/Content.aspx?id=3D3D284 &g= t;Are=20 there any others I should look at before dumping large cash on=20 one? > >Sound Shifter comes as a full working demo. = I wonder=20 if Paris >will like it? I want to use it stand alone if = possible=20 too. >Cubase 2 is also a way to go for me. > >As = always=20 thanks for your help, >Tom > > >I choose = Polesoft=20 Lockspam to fight spam, and=20 you? >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20 > > > ><META=20 http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html;=20 =3D >charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> > > ></HEA= D> ><BODY=20 bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> > I=20 need to slow down the tempo of two =3D >songs but = at=3D20 >the=20 multitrack > level. I've heard Waves =3D >Sound Shifter=20 is=3D20 >very good=20 compared > to Melodyne. Almost no=3D20 >artifacts.=20 > <A=3D20 >href=3D3D"<A=20 = href=3D'http://www.waves.com/Content.aspx?id=3D3D284">http://www.waves.co= m/'>http://www.waves.com/Content.aspx?id=3D3D284">http://www.waves.com= /=3D >Content.aspx?id=3D3D284</FO NT></DIV&gt= ; > <FONT=20 face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Are there any others I should=20 =3D ><FONT=3D20 >face=3D3DArial = size=3D3D2>look at=20 before dumping size=3D3D2>large=3D20 >cash on=20 one? > > Sound Shifter comes as a full working = =3D >demo. =20 I=3D20 >wonder if=20 Paris > will like it? I want to use it =3D >stand = alone=20 if=3D20 >possible = too. > <FONT=20 face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Cubase 2 is also a way to go for=20 =3D >me. > > As always thanks for your=20 =3D >help, > <FONT=20 face=3D3DArial=20 size=3D3D2>Tom</DIV&g t; > <FONT=20 size=3D3D2> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight = spam,=20 = =3D >and=3D20 >you? <A=3D20 >href=3D3D"<A=20 = href=3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer= '>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer</A= >=3D >.html =20 = </BODY&g t; > > </= BLOCKQUOTE> ------=_NextPart_000_0084_01C7BC9E.22231E50--Prosoniq Time Factory??? Didn't know that -- thanks... (SX3 sitting around here on a separate computer -- think I'll go jack around with somebody's tempo...) --chas On 2 Jul 2007 23:55:34 +1000, "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote: > >If you have SX you have the Prosoniq Time Factory algorithms built in. I think >they sound as good as anything and better than most. > >TCB > >"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote: >> >> >>I need to slow down the tempo of two songs but at the multitrack >>level. I've heard Waves Sound Shifter is very good compared >>to Melodyne. Almost no artifacts.=20 >>http://www.waves.com/Content.aspx?id=3D284I think it's in all versions of SX, you can check by seeing what algos can be chosen in the advanced tab. I'm positive it's in three but that's the last one I wrote about. I'm not sure if Steinaha kept licensing the Prosoniq library. TCB "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote: > > >Hey Thad, >Cubase SX 2.0 ? > >I do have 4.0 but am afraid to install because of >the possible problems. >Tom > > > "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:468903d6$1@linux... > > If you have SX you have the Prosoniq Time Factory algorithms built in. = >I think > they sound as good as anything and better than most. > > TCB > > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote: > > > > > >I need to slow down the tempo of two songs but at the multitrack > >level. I've heard Waves Sound Shifter is very good compared > >to Melodyne. Almost no artifacts.=3D20 > >http://www.waves.com/Content.aspx?id=3D3D284 > >Are there any others I should look at before dumping large cash on = >one? > > > >Sound Shifter comes as a full working demo. I wonder if Paris > >will like it? I want to use it stand alone if possible too. > >Cubase 2 is also a way to go for me. > > > >As always thanks for your help, > >Tom > > > > > >I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you? > >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20 > > > > > > > > >charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> > > > > > > > > > > I need to slow down the tempo of = >two =3D > >songs but at=3D20 > >the multitrack > > level. I've heard Waves =3D > >Sound Shifter is=3D20 > >very good compared > > to Melodyne. Almost no=3D20 > >artifacts. > > <A=3D20 > = >>href=3D3D"http://www.waves.com/Content.aspx?id=3D3D284">http://www.waves= >.com/=3D > >Content.aspx?id=3D3D284 > > Are there any others I should = >=3D > ><FONT=3D20 > >face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>look at before dumping face=3D3DArial =3D > >size=3D3D2>large=3D20 > >cash on one? > > > > Sound Shifter comes as a full = >working =3D > >demo. I=3D20 > >wonder if Paris > > will like it? I want to use it = >=3D > >stand alone if=3D20 > >possible too. > > Cubase 2 is also a way to go for = >=3D > >me. > > > > As always thanks for your =3D > >help, > > Tom > > I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight = >spam, =3D > >and=3D20 > >you? <A=3D20 > = >>href=3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re= >fer=3D > >.html > > > > > > > > > charset=3Diso-8859-1"> > > > > > Hey Thad, > Cubase SX 2.0 ? > > I do have 4.0 but am afraid to install = >because=20 >of > the possible problems. > Tom > > ><BLOCKQUOTE=20 >style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> > "TCB" <href=3D"mailto:nobody@ishere.com">nobody@ishere.com>=20 > wrote in message <A=20 > = >href=3D"news:468903d6$1@linux">news:468903d6$1@linux... If = >you have=20 > SX you have the Prosoniq Time Factory algorithms built in. I = >think they=20 > sound as good as anything and better than most. TCB "Tom = >Bruhl"=20 > <arpegio@comcast.net> = > > wrote: > > >I need to slow down the tempo of two = >songs but=20 > at the multitrack >level. I've heard Waves Sound Shifter = >is very=20 > good compared >to Melodyne. Almost no=20 > = >artifacts.=3D20 >http://www.waves.com/Content.aspx?id=3D3D284 &g= >t;Are=20 > there any others I should look at before dumping large cash on=20 > one? > >Sound Shifter comes as a full working demo. = >I wonder=20 > if Paris >will like it? I want to use it stand alone if = >possible=20 > too. >Cubase 2 is also a way to go for me. > >As = >always=20 > thanks for your help, >Tom > > >I choose = >Polesoft=20 > Lockspam to fight spam, and=20 > you? >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20 > > > Transitional//EN"> > ><META=20 > http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html;=20 > =3D >charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> > content=3D3D"MSHTML=20 > 6.00.2800.1400"=20 > = >name=3D3DGENERATOR> > ></HEA= >D> ><BODY=20 > bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> > size=3D3D2>I=20 > need to slow down the tempo of two =3D >songs but = >at=3D20 >the=20 > multitrack > face=3D3DArial=20 > size=3D3D2>level. I've heard Waves =3D >Sound Shifter=20 > is=3D20 >very good=20 > compared > face=3D3DArial=20 > size=3D3D2>to Melodyne. Almost no=3D20 >artifacts.=20 > > size=3D3D2><A=3D20 >href=3D3D"<A=20 > = >href=3D'http://www.waves.com/Content.aspx?id=3D3D284">http://www.waves.co= >m/'>http://www.waves.com/Content.aspx?id=3D3D284">http://www.waves.com= >/=3D >Content.aspx?id=3D3D284 = >; > <FONT=20 > face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Are there any others I should=20 > =3D ><FONT=3D20 >face=3D3DArial = >size=3D3D2>look at=20 > before dumping =3D >size=3D3D2>large=3D20 >cash on=20 > one? > face=3D3DArial=20 > size=3D3D2> > face=3D3DArial=20 > size=3D3D2>Sound Shifter comes as a full working = >=3D >demo. =20 > I=3D20 >wonder if=20 > Paris > face=3D3DArial=20 > size=3D3D2>will like it? I want to use it =3D >stand = >alone=20 > if=3D20 >possible = >too. > <FONT=20 > face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Cubase 2 is also a way to go for=20 > =3D >me. > face=3D3DArial=20 > size=3D3D2> > face=3D3DArial=20 > size=3D3D2>As always thanks for your=20 > =3D >help, > <FONT=20 > face=3D3DArial=20 > size=3D3D2>Tom > <FONT=20 > size=3D3D2> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight = >spam,=20 > = >=3D >and=3D20 >you? <A=3D20 >href=3D3D" <A=20 > = >href=3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer= >'>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer</A= >>=3D >.html =20 > = > > > </= >BLOCKQUOTE> > >Yeah, I use Prosoniq Time Factory. Works great. Rod "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote: > >I think it's in all versions of SX, you can check by seeing what algos can >be chosen in the advanced tab. I'm positive it's in three but that's the >last one I wrote about. I'm not sure if Steinaha kept licensing the Prosoniq >library. > >TCB > >"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote: >> >> >>Hey Thad, >>Cubase SX 2.0 ? >> >>I do have 4.0 but am afraid to install because of >>the possible problems. >>Tom >> >> >> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:468903d6$1@linux... >> >> If you have SX you have the Prosoniq Time Factory algorithms built in. >= >>I think >> they sound as good as anything and better than most. >> >> TCB >> >> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote: >> > >> > >> >I need to slow down the tempo of two songs but at the multitrack >> >level. I've heard Waves Sound Shifter is very good compared >> >to Melodyne. Almost no artifacts.=3D20 >> >http://www.waves.com/Content.aspx?id=3D3D284 >> >Are there any others I should look at before dumping large cash on = >>one? >> > >> >Sound Shifter comes as a full working demo. I wonder if Paris >> >will like it? I want to use it stand alone if possible too. >> >Cubase 2 is also a way to go for me. >> > >> >As always thanks for your help, >> >Tom >> > >> > >> >I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you? >> >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20 >> > >> > >> > >> > > >charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > I need to slow down the tempo of >= >>two =3D >> >songs but at=3D20 >> >the multitrack >> > level. I've heard Waves =3D >> >Sound Shifter is=3D20 >> >very good compared >> > to Melodyne. Almost no=3D20 >> >artifacts. >> > <A=3D20 >> = >>>href=3D3D"http://www.waves.com/Content.aspx?id=3D3D284">http://www.waves= >>.com/=3D >> >Content.aspx?id=3D3D284 >> > Are there any others I should = >>=3D >> ><FONT=3D20 >> >face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>look at before dumping >face=3D3DArial =3D >> >size=3D3D2>large=3D20 >> >cash on one? >> > >> > Sound Shifter comes as a full = >>working =3D >> >demo. I=3D20 >> >wonder if Paris >> > will like it? I want to use it >= >>=3D >> >stand alone if=3D20 >> >possible too. >> > Cubase 2 is also a way to go for >= >>=3D >> >me. >> > >> > As always thanks for your =3D >> >help, >> > Tom >> > I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight = >>spam, =3D >> >and=3D20 >> >you? <A=3D20 >> = >>>href=3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re= >>fer=3D >> >.html >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >charset=3Diso-8859-1"> >> >> >> >> >> Hey Thad, >> Cubase SX 2.0 ? >> >> I do have 4.0 but am afraid to install >= >>because=20 >>of >> the possible problems. >> Tom >> >> >><BLOCKQUOTE=20 >>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = >>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> >> "TCB" <>href=3D"mailto:nobody@ishere.com">nobody@ishere.com>=20 >> wrote in message <A=20 >> = >>href=3D"news:468903d6$1@linux">news:468903d6$1@linux... If >= >>you have=20 >> SX you have the Prosoniq Time Factory algorithms built in. I = >>think they=20 >> sound as good as anything and better than most. TCB "Tom >= >>Bruhl"=20 >> <arpegio@comcast.net> = >> >> wrote: > > >I need to slow down the tempo of two = >>songs but=20 >> at the multitrack >level. I've heard Waves Sound Shifter = >>is very=20 >> good compared >to Melodyne. Almost no=20 >> = >>artifacts.=3D20 >http://www.waves.com/Content.aspx?id=3D3D284 &g= >>t;Are=20 >> there any others I should look at before dumping large cash on=20 >> one? > >Sound Shifter comes as a full working demo. = >>I wonder=20 >> if Paris >will like it? I want to use it stand alone if = >>possible=20 >> too. >Cubase 2 is also a way to go for me. > >As = >>always=20 >> thanks for your help, >Tom > > >I choose = >>Polesoft=20 >> Lockspam to fight spam, and=20 >> you? >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20 >> > > > Transitional//EN"> > ><META=20 >> http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html;=20 >> =3D >charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> > >content=3D3D"MSHTML=20 >> 6.00.2800.1400"=20 >> = >>name=3D3DGENERATOR> > ></HEA= >>D> ><BODY=20 >> bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> > >size=3D3D2>I=20 >> need to slow down the tempo of two =3D >songs but = >>at=3D20 >the=20 >> multitrack > >face=3D3DArial=20 >> size=3D3D2>level. I've heard Waves =3D >Sound Shifter=20 >> is=3D20 >very good=20 >> compared > >face=3D3DArial=20 >> size=3D3D2>to Melodyne. Almost no=3D20 >artifacts.=20 >> > > size=3D3D2><A=3D20 >href=3D3D"<A=20 >> = >>href=3D'http://www.waves.com/Content.aspx?id=3D3D284">http://www.waves.co= >>m/'>http://www.waves.com/Content.aspx?id=3D3D284">http://www.waves.com= >>/=3D >Content.aspx?id=3D3D284 = >>; > <FONT=20 >> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Are there any others I should=20 >> =3D ><FONT=3D20 >face=3D3DArial = >>size=3D3D2>look at=20 >> before dumping > =3D >size=3D3D2>large=3D20 >cash on=20 >> one? > >face=3D3DArial=20 >> size=3D3D2> > >face=3D3DArial=20 >> size=3D3D2>Sound Shifter comes as a full working = >>=3D >demo. =20 >> I=3D20 >wonder if=20 >> Paris > >face=3D3DArial=20 >> size=3D3D2>will like it? I want to use it =3D >stand = >>alone=20 >> if=3D20 >possible = >>too. > <FONT=20 >> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Cubase 2 is also a way to go for=20 >> =3D >me. > >face=3D3DArial=20 >> size=3D3D2> > >face=3D3DArial=20 >> size=3D3D2>As always thanks for your=20 >> =3D >help, > <FONT=20 >> face=3D3DArial=20 >> size=3D3D2>Tom > <FONT=20 >> size=3D3D2> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight = >>spam,=20 >> = >>=3D >and=3D20 >you? <A=3D20 >href=3D3D "<A=20 >> = >>href=3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer= >>'>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer</A= >>>=3D >.html =20 >> = >> > > </= >>BLOCKQUOTE> >> >> >This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00EA_01C7BCBD.7DE10C10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Me too! "Chas. Duncan" <duncan5199ATsbcglobalDOTnet@> wrote in message = news:1kci83lvdaapfmh9s3h9qs54q22kagstm8@4ax.com... Prosoniq Time Factory??? Didn't know that -- thanks... (SX3 sitting around here on a separate computer -- think I'll go jack around with somebody's tempo...) --chas On 2 Jul 2007 23:55:34 +1000, "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote: > >If you have SX you have the Prosoniq Time Factory algorithms built = in. I think >they sound as good as anything and better than most. > >TCB > >"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote: >> >> >>I need to slow down the tempo of two songs but at the multitrack >>level. I've heard Waves Sound Shifter is very good compared >>to Melodyne. Almost no artifacts.=3D20 >>http://www.waves.com/Content.aspx?id=3D3D284 I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you? http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html ------=_NextPart_000_00EA_01C7BCBD.7DE10C10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Me too! <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> "Chas. Duncan" <duncan5199ATsbcglobalDOTnet@> wrote in = message <A=20 = href=3D"news:1kci83lvdaapfmh9s3h9qs54q22kagstm8@4ax.com">news:1kci83lvdaa= pfmh9s3h9qs54q22kagstm8@4ax.com... Prosoniq=20 Time Factory??? Didn't know that -- thanks... (SX3 = sitting around=20 here on a separate computer -- think I'll go jack around with = somebody's=20 tempo...) --chas On 2 Jul 2007 23:55:34 +1000, "TCB" = <<A=20 href=3D"mailto:nobody@ishere.com">nobody@ishere.com>=20 wrote: > >If you have SX you have the Prosoniq Time = Factory=20 algorithms built in. I think >they sound as good as anything and = better=20 than most. > >TCB > > "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20 href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net>=20 wrote: >> >> >>I need to slow down the = tempo of two=20 songs but at the multitrack >>level. I've heard Waves = Sound=20 Shifter is very good compared >>to Melodyne. Almost no=20 = artifacts.=3D20 >>http://www.waves.com/Content.aspx?id=3D3D284<B= R> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, = and=20 you? <A=20 href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer= ..html ------=_NextPart_000_00EA_01C7BCBD.7DE10C10--MPEX (Prosoniq's algo) is in Nuendo/SX 2, 3 and 4. It's fine for short changes but I doubt you'll get more than +/-5% out of it. For pitch shift and time stretch together, believe it or not, Cakewalk's Dimension did a far superior job to MPEX, Audition, or Sequoia. I slowed a track down to half speed and lowered the pitch by 1-2 octaves (for effect) - totally smooth, at least for this use. Can't say this method will work effectively or with as much control for slightly slowing down/speeding up a track to a set tempo though. An interesting find at least. Dedric "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:46893919$1@linux... > > I think it's in all versions of SX, you can check by seeing what algos can > be chosen in the advanced tab. I'm positive it's in three but that's the > last one I wrote about. I'm not sure if Steinaha kept licensing the > Prosoniq > library. > > TCB > > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote: >> >> >>Hey Thad, >>Cubase SX 2.0 ? >> >>I do have 4.0 but am afraid to install because of >>the possible problems. >>Tom >> >> >> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:468903d6$1@linux... >> >> If you have SX you have the Prosoniq Time Factory algorithms built in. > = >>I think >> they sound as good as anything and better than most. >> >> TCB >> >> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote: >> > >> > >> >I need to slow down the tempo of two songs but at the multitrack >> >level. I've heard Waves Sound Shifter is very good compared >> >to Melodyne. Almost no artifacts.=3D20 >> >http://www.waves.com/Content.aspx?id=3D3D284 >> >Are there any others I should look at before dumping large cash on = >>one? >> > >> >Sound Shifter comes as a full working demo. I wonder if Paris >> >will like it? I want to use it stand alone if possible too. >> >Cubase 2 is also a way to go for me. >> > >> >As always thanks for your help, >> >Tom >> > >> > >> >I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you? >> >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20 >> > >> > >> > >> > > >charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > I need to slow down the tempo of > = >>two =3D >> >songs but at=3D20 >> >the multitrack >> > level. I've heard Waves =3D >> >Sound Shift
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