/> signal=20 from the 8-Pre was being seen by &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; = &gt;=20 Paris... switched the MOTU to 88.2k and routed the=20 lightpipe &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt; into one of my = Multifaces=20 &amp; there it was - no problem with = the &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=2 0 &gt; MOTU digiblah outputs. &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=2 0 &gt; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt; SO, I wonder if this = is just=20 one of the Paris ADAT card &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;=20 weirdnesses I've heard so much about? It's a shame=20 because: &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n
er. >> >> Deej >> >> "Jeff Hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote in message news:4643d56b@linux... >> >>>Trying to eiher sync an external hardware sequencer to Paris or the other >>>way around. Have tried it with two different workstations (XP80 and a >>>ZR76) and am not seeming to get MTC either of them like or MTC from them >>>that Paris will accept. >>> >>>Going thrugh a USB Midisport 4X4 to get midi to them. >>> >>>Any ideas? >>> >>>JH >> >> >>Security by obscurity, James, which is barely security at all. TCB "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hot
mail.com> wrote: > >"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote: >>I have a few of the 260's at my work. Good box - better than the Dimension > >>series - however with either of them you will probably have trouble feeding > >>power hungry EDS cards. 1 should fly, 2 will be questionable and 3 probably > >>won't run IME. Call dell to see if you can get a higher output power supply > >>(they are proprietary and you have to get them from Dell) ... Opti will > >>have a better chance of it. There is also a parts issues. They guarantee >you >>can get any part in the opti for 5 years after purchase... you might just >be >>SOL with a dimension. >> >>In either case make SURE you get the original factory disk. Pull the disk > >>out, put it in a USB case and fdisk/format it on another computer. There >is >>a FAT partition on Dell's that's a pain in the ass to deal with unless you > >>know how to bust into the boot.ini file and tell it to quit adding partition > >>information. Use the factory install CD.. Then, uninstall the junk you don't > >>want.
The Opti likely came with XP SP1.... if you are going audio only, >do >>NOT install SP2. As with any solid/stable audio box, don't connect it to > >>the internet. >> >>AA >> > >>>As with any solid/stable audio box, don't connect it to >>the internet.<< > > >Unless it's a Mac; ) > > >> >>"Jeff Hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote in message >>news:4643dc67$1@linux... >>> Paul >>> >>> Probably want to stick with the Dimension. I'm not sure of current >>> models, but older models of the optiplex use a riser card for slots. Had > >>> issues getting my original Paris rig to run on one (but that was a few > >>> years back). >>> >>> The downside of the Dimension is all the consumer software they drop >>> onboard ( although it's started to invade the Optiplex line as well). >Plan >>> some time to sit in Add/ Remove Programs and uninstall unneeded SW (or > >>> wipe it and start fresh if it still comes with real XP CD)...and yes go > >>> XP. >>> >>> JH >>> >>> Braun wrote: >>>> OK, so I've decided to switch my mixing rig from Mac to XP - I want >>>> more power and available stuff than the OS9 boot limitations will >>>> allow me. (Still using a G4 for the live tracking rig, though. I >>>> know for a fact that I can record 16 tracks for 2 hours straight with >>>> no burps - I trust that.) >>>> >>>> I was toying with building a pc for that, when suddenly I'm faced with >>>> two free Dell P4 boxen. >>>> >>>> Free is good. >>>> >>>> I'm going to use one, and set one up for a friend as a household >>>> computer - so, I need advice on which would be better for Paris. >>>> >>>> One is a Dimension 4400 - P4 2GHZ, 512 cache, 400MHz FSB >>>> >>>> The other is an Optiplex 260GX - same chip. >>>> >>>> Both are full-sized towers. >>>> >>>> So, essentially, I have to choose between the Dimension, which is >>>> aimed for the home market, and the Optiplex, which is aimed at the >>>> business market. >>>> >>>> Suggestions? >>>> >>>> pab >> >> >So you don't agree with Aaron's advice, Thad? Cheers, -Jamie www.JamieKrutz.com TCB wrote: > Security by obscurity, James, which is barely security at all. > > TCB > > "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote: >> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote: >>> I have a few of the 260's at my work. Good box - better than the Dimension >>> series - however with either of them you will probably have trouble feeding >>> power hungry EDS cards. 1 should fly, 2 will be questionable and 3 probably >>> won't run IME. Call dell to see if you can get a higher output power supply >>> (they are proprietary and you have to get them from Dell) ... Opti will >>> have a better chance of it. There is also a parts issues. They guarantee >> you >>> can get any part in the opti for 5 years after purchase... you might just >> be >>> SOL with a dimension. >>> >>> In either case make SURE you get the original factory disk. Pull the disk >>> out, put it in a USB case and fdisk/format it on another computer. There >> is >>> a FAT partition on Dell's that's a pain in the ass to deal with unless > you >>> know how to bust into the boot.ini file and tell it to quit adding partition >>> information. Use the factory install CD.. Then, uninstall the junk you > don't >>> want. The Opti likely came with XP SP1.... if you are going audio only, >> do >>> NOT install SP2. As with any solid/stable audio box, don't connect it > to >>> the internet. >>> >>> AA >>> >>>> As with any solid/stable audio box, don't connect it to >>> the internet.<< >> >> Unless it's a Mac; ) >> >> >>> "Jeff Hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote in message >>> news:4643dc67$1@linux... >>>> Paul >>>> >>>> Probably want to stick with the Dimension. I'm not sure of current >>>> models, but older models of the optiplex use a riser card for slots. > Had >>>> issues getting my original Paris rig to run on one (but that was a few >>>> years back). >>>> >>>> The downside of the Dimension is all the consumer software they drop > >>>> onboard ( although it's started to invade the Optiplex line as well). >> Plan >>>> some time to sit in Add/ Remove Programs and uninstall unneeded SW (or >>>> wipe it and start fresh if it still comes with real XP CD)...and yes > go >>>> XP. >>>> >>>> JH >>>> >>>> Braun wrote: >>>>> OK, so I've decided to switch my mixing rig from Mac to XP - I want >>>>> more power and available stuff than the OS9 boot limitations will >>>>> allow me. (Still using a G4 for the live tracking rig, though. I >>>>> know for a fact that I can record 16 tracks for 2 hours straight with >>>>> no burps - I trust that.) >>>>> >>>>> I was toying with building a pc for that, when suddenly I'm faced with >>>>> two free Dell P4 boxen. >>>>> >>>>> Free is good. >>>>> >>>>> I'm going to use one, and set one up for a friend as a household >>>>> computer - so, I need advice on which would be better for Paris. >>>>> >>>>> One is a Dimension 4400 - P4 2GHZ, 512 cache, 400MHz FSB >>>>> >>>>> The other is an Optiplex 260GX - same chip. >>>>> >>>>> Both are full-sized towers. >>>>> >>>>> So, essentially, I have to choose between the Dimension, which is >>>>> aimed for the home market, and the Optiplex, which is aimed at the >>>>> business market. >>>>> >>>>> Suggestions? >>>>> >>>>> pab >>> >I used to do it by using a software sequencer in the middle. If you have an old version of Cakewalk or maybe a demo of an app you can try out for 30 days, it works this way. Download Hubi's MIDI loopback. It's free. This gives you internal MIDI ports to work with. Set PARIS to send MTC through one of the HUBI ports into your software sequencer. Set the software sequencer to see MTC in
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>> person will then add a third paragraph, and so on back-and-forth. Remember > >> to > >> re-read what has been written each time in order to keep the story > >> coherent. > >> > >> There is to be absolutely NO talking outside of the e-mails and > >> anything you wish to say must be written in the e - mail. The story is over > >> when both agree a conclusion has been reached." The following was actually > >> turned in by two of his English students: Rebecca and Gary. > >> > >> > >> > >> THE STORY: > >> > >> (first paragraph by Rebecca) > >> > >> At first, Laurie couldn't decide which kind of tea she wanted. The > >> chamomile, which used to be her favorite for lazy evenings at home, > >> now reminded her too much of Carl, who once said, in happier times, that > >> he liked chamomile. But she felt she must now, at all costs, keep her > >> mind off Carl. His possessiveness was suffocating, and if she thought > >> about him too much her asthma started acting up again. So chamomile > >> was out of the question. > >> > >> > >> (second p aragraph by Gary) > >> > >> Meanwhile, Advance
e'll install in his neck. On Fri, 11 May 2007 12:41:28 -0500, "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote: >You can have one, but I know you. If you don't word clock and put a set of >hi end convertors on it, then you'll..... > >AA > >"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:4644a31e$1@linux... >>I rented a car from Hertz for my little sojurn to Denver last week. I had a >>big bunch of CD's for the trip but this car had a sirius system in it. I >>hardly listened to any of the CD's. What was surprising to me was that the >>programmers on this station pretty much had the **** down as far as I was >>concerned. It was very enjoyable......and now I'm thinking that if I don't >>have this......... >> >> >> >"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote: >>Windows Vista-Key Benefits for Musicians >>Well, aside from a gorgeous UI that will leave even the biggest Mac zealot >>speechless, here are some of the benefits you'll get when running SONAR >> >6.2 on Vista: > >ROTFL!!!!...James, Gene, Jaimie? I am assuming that if none of you guys post >to this, that it must be true and you are, even as we speak, online buying >Dell computers..<br
er. I play keyboards. A number of years ago when I worked at MF I purchased some pickups they were by a company called BIAX they are a true stereo pickup and they spread the strings across the stereo field and they sound amazing. Here's my ? I want to add some power chords to a song. These pickups use a stereo Y cable TRS out to 2 1/4 inch L and R.Is there a processor that is stereo in and out. I don't know if that's the right way to ask but I want to maintain the stereo image and just get simple power guitar sounds. Any suggestions can I use any of my EDS effects for this. I also have 2 more of these if you happen to be lookin for one. A bridge position and a middle or neck position. Thanks JimHi Jim, I do not know of any stereo-in guitar processors. There are lots of stereo-out ones of course, but I do not know of a stereo-in one that can do good power guitar sounds. You may need to use 2 Pods or whaterever, or 2 guitar amps. good luck DC "jim drago" <jamesd@prospect.k12.or.us> wrote: > >OK I have a ? First of all I'm not a player just a strummer. I play keyboards. >A number of years ago when I worked at MF I purchased some pickups they were >by a company called BIAX they are a true stereo pickup and they spread the >strings across the stereo field and they sound amazing. Here's my ? I want >to add some power chords to a song. These pickups use a stereo Y cable TRS >out to 2 1/4 inch L and R.Is there a processor that is stereo in and out. >I don't know if that's the right way to ask but I want to maintain the stereo >image and just get simple power guitar sounds. Any suggestions can I use >any of my EDS effects for this. I also have 2 more of these if you happen >to be lookin for one. A bridge position and a middle or neck position. Thanks >JimWell, in my opinion, the best sounding Digi /M-Audio come from the M-Audio side. The Pro Mix I/O unit not only sounds better (Pre's)but, is way more flexible than the 002 or 003.. I hear that the 003 uses the better M-Audio converters. Having said that, the M-audio Pro-Mix offers a lot of option that the 002 /003 does not. The Pro Mix is a multi DAW controller. Whereas the 002/003 does not controller any DAW but PT LE.. Yes, you can use it as an audio interface (ASIO) with other DAWs, but you can't control faders, transport etc.. Personally I just purchased the M-Audio ProFire Bridge http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/ProFireLightbridge-mai n.html. 32 adapt I/Os.. Killer. Use the same nice converters as the Pro Mix. I'm using this thing as my bridge into PT M-powered 7.3 and Nuendo..We curretly have our board hard wired for the Alesis HD24 &Adat LX20(32 channels) via analog.. With with ProFire, we attached the to the HD24 &Lx20 vai light pipes... Now we have 32 channels of killer Analog mixing via a 56 channel Soundcraft Ghost . So we can route on screen channel
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