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Re: Vista knows best
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description: ntent=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3DGENERATOR> >> > >> > >> > >> > I just bought it for $45. I also = >> >sent an=20 >> >email to Peter. >> > I can't wait! >> > Tom >> ><BLOCKQUOTE=20 >> >style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = >> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> >> > "Dimitrios" <<A=20<br
creator: DJ
date: 2006-12-26T20:24:55-00:00

Vista knows best
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description: lank">musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:45b5101c$1@linux... >
creator: John [1]
date: 2006-12-26T20:50:45-00:00

Re: Vista knows best
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description: /> >> > href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in = >> >message=20 >> > <A=20 >> > = >> >>href=3D"news:45b4dd9e$1@linux">news:45b4dd9e$1@linux... Grea= >> >t. For=20 >> > your benefitn there is a 30% discount until 31 of=20 >> > January. Regards, Dimitrios "PaulN" <<A=20 >> > href=3D"mailto:paul@nospam.com">paul@nospam.com>=20 >> > wrote: > >You can count me = >> >in > > >"Dimitrios"=20 >> > <<A href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr>=20 >> > wrote: >> >>Hi, >>You remember Wormhole=20 >> > ? >>Although there was a great support for us paris users = >> >regarding=20 >> > the update >>of wormhole I don't think that more than 3-4 of = >> >us=20 >> > ,including me, have bought >>wormhole. >>I don't = >> >wanna be=20 >> > pushy with your money and urge you to spend them = >> >towards >>anything=20 >> > for that matter but you understand my position and how we=20 >> > Paris >>users show our appreciation to this author of=20 >> > Vertex... >>We have to decide if we want some people g
creator: excelav
date: 2006-12-26T23:25:30-00:00

Re: Vista knows best
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description: >?=20 >> > or can I hear only main and backing vocals ? >>Now add to the = >> >above=20 >> > this Latency compensation thing which was based = >> >on >a >>idea of=20 >> > mine with manually giving the latency of a certain plugin and=20 >> > letting >>the rest of audio tracks follow that=20 >> > latency. >> >>I am signing = >> >this: >>Dimitrios=20 >> > Bitzenis > >> > I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, = >> >and=20 >> >you? <A=20 >> >>href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer= >> >.html >> > >> > >> > >I am a little unclear still.... For arguments sake, let's say I have a 32 track project on 2 cards, with plugins of various latencies...track 1 has 16384 ms. track 10 has 16376 ms, and track 20 (track 4 of submix 2) has 256 ms latency. What would be the procedure with Vertex to even all tracks out across the project? Chas. Duncan <duncan5199ATsbcglobalDOTnet@> wrote: >OK, that's understood then -- max latency not an issue. Cool. And I >had an email exchange with the developer today regarding 98 -- he says >it shouldn't be a problem and encouraged me to try the demo. Which >I'll do, as soon as I'm done with this batch of mixes I'm busy with >right now (don't want to throw *anything* new into this system until >this job is done). But, if he gets this "manual latency" compensator >gizmo working, I'll buy just for that
creator: TCB
date: 2006-12-27T00:05:56-00:00

Re: Vista knows best
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description: gt;>will >>>>>do is: Tracks 1 will pass through as it is, track 2 will be delayed by >>8192 >>>>>samples and all other tracks will be delayed by 16384 samples. >>>>> >>>>>What counts for the overall latency is the largest latency of any track. >>>>>You calculate the sum of latencies only for individual tracks when you >>e.g. >>>>>put several uad1 behind on the same track. >>>>> >>>>>ISN'T that WHAT WE WANT ? !!! >>>>>If we don't buy this vertex we have to jump off Paris !! :) >>>>>Regards, >>>>>Dimitrios >>>>> >>>>>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote: >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>That is what we want, but extremely high playback latencies will probably >>>>cause a delay between fader and mute actions and audible execution (and >>also >>>>delay meters). I need to make automation decisions with effects in place, >>>>so extremely long delays could be problematic. >>>>Any chance we could pick from a list or assign a total delay? >>>>Gene >>>>This is exciting. >>> >What was the website again? "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:45b46e36$1@linux... > > Hi, > You remember Wormhole ? > Although there was a great support for us paris users regarding the update > of wormhole I don't think that more than 3-4 of us ,including me, have > bought > wormhole. > I don't wanna be pushy with your money and urge you to spend them towards > anything for that matter but you understand my position and how we Paris > users show our appreciation to this author of Vertex... > We have to decide if we want some people get involved in developing Paris > any further or let eventually Paris fade away... > I formyself I am here for me and all of you to fight till nothing can be > done... > I will buy it because ALREADY is a GREAT plugin because you can SOLO a > bunch > of audio tracks along submixes , mute other and finally be able to do what > clients sometimes (always ?) ask like can I hear please only the guitars > ? or can I hear only main and backing vocals ? > Now add to the ab…
creator: TCB
date: 2006-12-27T00:20:12-00:00

Re: Vista knows best
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description: samples of latency. >>>>>>Track 2 has a plug-in with a latency of 8192 samples. What FaderWorks >>>will >>>>>>do is: Tracks 1 will pass through as it is, track 2 will be delayed >by >>>8192 >>>>>>samples and all other tracks will be delayed by 16384 samples. >>>>>> >>>>>>What counts for the overall latency is the largest latency of any track. >>>>>>You calculate the sum of latencies only for individual tracks when you >>>e.g. >>>>>>put several uad1 behind on the same track. >>>>>> >>>>>>ISN'T that WHAT WE WANT ? !!! >>>>>>If we don't buy this vertex we have to jump off Paris !! :) >>>>>>Regards, >>>>>>Dimitrios >>>>>> >>>>>>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>That is what we want, but extremely high playback latencies will probably >>>>>cause a delay between fader and mute actions and audible execution (and >>>also >>>>>delay meters). I need to m
creator: TCB
date: 2006-12-27T00:39:21-00:00

Re: Vista knows best
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description: ake automation decisions with effects in place, >>>>>so extremely long delays could be problematic. >>>>>Any chance we could pick from a list or assign a total delay? >>>>>Gene >>>>>This is exciting. >>>> >> >Dear Phil, You probably have read that I said allign all 31 audio tracks to 16376 I meant to 16384 which already was so, so it just adds 12 samples to track 10. Regards, Dimitrios "Dimitrios" <m
creator: LaMont
date: 2006-12-27T00:52:01-00:00

Re: Vista knows best
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description: t; >>installed?) and burn a=20 > >>CD of wavs. > >> Then rip into Paris in the normal = > >>fashion. I=20 > >>never have been able to do > >> it any other way in itunes. I = > >>think it's part=20 > >>of their copy protection thing.?. > >> They will put a limit on the number of > > = > >>CDs you can=20 > >>burn too. Nice of them. > >> Tom > >> > >> > >><BLOCKQUOTE=20 > >>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = > >>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> > >> "Rod Lincoln" <<A=20 > >> href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@kc.rr.com">rlincoln@kc.rr.com> wrote in = > >>message=20 > >> <A = > >>href=3D"news:45b55d8c$1@linux">news:45b55d8c$1@linux... I = > >>just=20 > >> recieved some files to play on from a client. They are <A=20 > >> href=3D"mailto:#$#@%$&^$">#$#@%$&^$#!!! m4a = > >>files. So far=20 > >> I haven't been able to convert them to wave or mp3 files. Up till = > >>now I've=20 > >> been using the handy dandy CDex program to convert mp3's to waves. > > = > >>Anyone=20 > >> know of a program that will do this??? My version of Wavelab will = > >>only do=20 > >> mp3's and Cubase SX3 is the same. I just wasted a half hour on = > >>idiottunes=20 > >> with no success. Any one know of something out there?????=20 > >> Bueller.....anyone????? Rod > >> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, = > >>and=20 > >>you? <A=20 > >>href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer= > >>.html > >> > >> > > > >DVD John, the guy who cracked the CSS DRM on DVDs also cracked the Apple DRM. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/01/05/itunes_drm_cracked_w ide_open/ He also cracked their streaming tech, bless his little Norwegian heart. Here's a reportedly usable Windows app to do the conversion. http://hymn-project.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1555 However, keep in mind you're probably violating an EULA, the DMCA, WTO regulations, as well as helping to hasten the destruction of all good and decent copyright holders and end the world as we k…
creator: DJ
date: 2006-12-27T01:10:27-00:00

Re: Vista knows best
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description: ter/convert_m4a_to_mp3_converter.htm" target="_blank"> http://www.tomdownload.com/audio_mp3/mp3_converter/convert_m 4a_to_mp3_converter.htm http://www.topvideopro.com/mp4-m4a-converter/mp4-m4a.htm http://www.mp3-cd-converter.com/convert_mp3/free_convert_m4a _to_mp3.html http://www.resellerratings.com/forum/t93323.html http://www.soft29.com/convert/m4a_converter.html http://www.dvd-ipod.biz/audio_tools/ http://ask.metafilter.com/mefi/45651 http://www.fivesign.com/downloads/program/Softe-AAC-to-WAV-C onverter_41512_9_download.html http://www.allconverter.net/cd_tools/ MAybe something in here?? -- Thanks, Brandon "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message news:45b58e95@linux... > you might see if Winamp can open them. If so ( and I think it can ) then you > can set winamp to do a wave read and write it straight to WAV format. > Beyond that, tell the client to wake up and smell the extra conversion $$$ > they're costing themselves > AA > > > "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@kc.rr.com> wrote in message news:45b571de$1@linux... > > > > Thanks for the info , but SCREW THAT!!!!! If clients are moving to m4a's > > I need a way to be able to do this a lot with no worry about a "limit" > > also > > I don't want to waste CD's. > > Rod > > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote: > >> > >> > >>Rod, > >>Make a CD in itunes (already installed?) and burn a CD of wavs. > >>Then rip into Paris in the normal fashion. I never have been able to do > > = > >> > >>it any other way in itunes. I think it's part of their copy protection > > = > >>thing.?. > >>They will put a limit on the number of CDs you can burn too. Nice of = > >>them. > >>Tom > >> > >> > >> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@kc.rr.com> wrote in message = > >>news:45b55d8c$1@linux... > >> > >> I just recieved some files to play on from a client. They are = > >>#$#@%$&^$#!!! > >> m4a files. So far I haven't been able to convert them to wave or mp3 > > = > >>files. > >> Up till now I've been using the handy dandy CDex program to …
creator: excelav
date: 2006-12-27T01:38:11-00:00

Re: Vista knows best
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description: /> >>> >>>>Dear Phil, >>>>You probably have read that I said allign all 31 audio tracks to 16376 >> >> I >> >>>>meant to 16384 which already was so, so it just adds 12 samples to track >>>>10. >>>>Regards, >>>>Dimitrios >>>> >>>>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote: >>>> >>>>>Hi Phil, >>>>>According to the author you just have to type the latency on the vertex >>>> >>>>instance >>>> >>>>>you are putting a plugin and then vertex takes care of the rest !! >>>>>Here is how it will work... >>>>>You open vertex dsp on every audio track on your 2 card system. >>>>>You can save that as a template for further projects. >>>>>Now lets say you open on track 1 a plugin that has 16384 samples latency >>>>>, you just type 16384 on that vertex's instance of audio track 1 and vertex >>>>>takes care of the rest 31 audio tracks to get alligned. >>>>>Now you put a plugin on track 10 which has a latency of 16376 ,you just >>>> >>>>type >>>> >>>>>that number on track's 10 vertex instance and so vertex takes care of >> >> the >> >>>>>rest 31 audio tracks again meaning that it delays all other tracks in >> >> a >> >>>>way >>>> >>>>>that all have this 16376 latency, menaing again that it just adds 12 samples >>>>>to track 10 and lives all other 31 audio tracks with same 16384 latency >>>> >>>>!! >>>> >>>>>Isn't that clever ?? >>>>>Now you say you put a plugin on track 4 of submix 2 that has a latency >>> >>>of >>> >>>>>256 ms (you have here to translate it to samples as to have it on your >>> >>>latency >>> >>>>>list) this is 1290 samples ,plus the 12 samples submix 2 introduces (Paris >>>>>feature) you will have a total of 1302. >>>>>Just type 1302 on track's 4 vertex instance and vertex will take this >> >> very >> >>>>>same track to the 16384 latency situation ! >>>>>This very clever delay compensator DOES not add the latencies but uses >>> >>>the >>> >>>>>biggest amoung all instances and alligns the rest ! >>>>>I hope this helps. >>>>>Regards, >>>>>Dimitrios >>>>> >>>>>"Phil Aiken" <…
creator: Chris Ludwig
date: 2006-12-27T02:56:30-00:00

Re: Vista knows best
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description: br /> >Hoov > >Dimitrios wrote: >> Great Chris ! >> Please email him too saying that you are a Paris users that has been informed >> about the latency compensator ! >> Regards, >> Dimitrios >> >> "Chris Lang" <yo@yo.yo> wrote: >> >>>That is awesome. Buying it now... >>> >>>Chris >>> >>> >>>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:<br
creator: neil[1]
date: 2006-12-27T02:58:41-00:00

Re: Vista knows best
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description: >>>>>>Track 2 has a plug-in with a latency of 8192 samples. What FaderWorks >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>will >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>do is: Tracks 1 will pass through as it is, track 2 will be delayed >>>>>> >>>>>>by >>>>>> >>>>>>>>8192 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>samples and all other tracks will be delayed by 16384 samples. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>What counts for the overall latency is the largest latency of any >>>> >>>>track. >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>You calculate the sum of latencies only for individual tracks when >>>>> >>>>>you >>>>> >>>>>>>>e.g. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>put several uad1 behind on the same track. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>ISN'T that WHAT WE WANT ? !!! >>>>>>>>>>>If we don't buy this vertex we have to jump off Paris !! :) >>>>>>>>>>>Regards, >>>&
creator: Jamie K
date: 2006-12-27T04:01:28-00:00

Re: Vista knows best
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description: s latency. What would be >> >> the >> >>>>>>procedure with Vertex to even all tracks out across the project? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Chas. Duncan <duncan5199ATsbcglobalDOTnet@> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>OK, that's understood then -- max latency not an issue. Cool. And >> >> I >> >>>>>>>had an email exchange with the developer today regarding 98 -- he says >>>>>>>it shouldn't be a problem and encour
creator: dc[3]
date: 2006-12-27T04:36:29-00:00

Re: Vista knows best
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description: aged me to try the demo. Which >>>>>>>I'll do, as soon as I'm done with this batch of mixes I'm busy with >>>>>>>right now (don't want to throw *anything* new into this system until >>>>>>>this job is done). But, if he gets this "manual latency" compensator >>>>>>>gizmo working, I'll buy just for that and for the extra solo and mute >>>>>>>capability. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>-- thanks for keeping on top of these developments -- much appreciated >>>>>>>-- chas. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>On 23 Jan 2007 04:25:42 +1000, "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Well there is no pick from the list thing. >>>>>>>>If you read all the posts you will understand that the latency is due >>>>> >>>>>to >>>>> >>>>>>>>the amount you manually type on a ceratin vertex instance vst plugin. >>>>>>>>so if you put a 64 samples latent vst plugin you just type 64 >>>>> >>>>>and all other >>>>> >>>>>>>>audio tracks get delayed that amount ! >>>>>>>>The author just asks how much would be the maximum possible latency >>> >>>needed >>> >>>>>>>>because the 132000 maximum (only maximum if you will ever reach that >>>> >>>>) >>>> >>>>>>the >>>>>> >>>>>>>>author suggests uses 1 mb memory per vertex instance , so for 32 audio >>>>>> >>>>>>tracks >>>>>> >>>>>>>>with vertex 32mb will be needed, for 64 paris audio tracks with vertex >>>>>> >>>>>>64 >>>>>> >>>>>>>>mb will be needed. >>>>>>>>I aggree with the author's 132000 samples as maximum ,if you will ever >>>>>> >>>>>>reach >>>>>> >>>>>>>>that I say again. >>>>>>>>Normally you would never pass 1000 without uad1 plugins... >>>>>>>>Regards, >>>>>>>>Dimitrios >>>>>>>>Chas. Duncan <duncan5199ATsbcglobalDOTnet@> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Gene/Dimitrios: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Would it even be necessary to "pick from a list" or "assign" total >>>>>>>>>delay? Seems like the total delay would simply be as low (or as high) >>>>>>>>>as needed to compensate for the plugins used. (Unless I'm missing >>>>>>>>>something, which is always a possibility...) >>>>>>>>…
creator: LaMont
date: 2006-12-27T04:40:47-00:00

Re: Vista knows best
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description: gt;>>> >>>>>2. >>>>> >>>>>>>>As >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>track 1 and track 2 have the same latency they are already in sync, >>>>>> >>>>>>but >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>all >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>other tracks (the remaining 46 tracks) have to be delayed by 16384 >>>>> >>>>>samples, >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>not 32768. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Take another example: Track 1 has a plug-in with 16384 samples of >>>> >>>>latency. >>>> >>>>>
creator: LaMont
date: 2006-12-27T04:43:02-00:00

Re: Vista knows best
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description: 16384 = latency >>>> >>>>!! >>>> >>>>>Isn't that clever ?? >>>>>Now you say you put a plugin on track 4 of submix 2 that has a = latency >>> >>>of >>> >>>>>256 ms (you have here to translate it to samples as to have it on = your >>> >>>latency >>> >>>>>list) this is 1290 samples ,plus the 12 samples submix 2 = introduces (Paris >>>>>feature) you will have a total of 1302. >>>>>Just type 1302 on track's 4 vertex instance and vertex will take = this >>=20 >> very >>=20 >>>>>same track to the 16384 latency situation ! >>>>>This very clever delay compensator DOES not add the latencies but = uses >>> >>>the >>> >>>>>biggest amoung all instances and alligns the rest ! >>>>>I hope this helps. >>>>>Regards, >>>>>Dimitrios >>>>> >>>>>"Phil Aiken" <asdf@asdf.sdf> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>I am a little unclear still.... >>>>>>For arguments sake, let's say I have a 32 track project on 2 = cards, >>=20 >> with >>=20 >>>>>>plugins of various latencies...track 1 has 16384 ms. track 10 = has 16376 >>>>> >>>>>ms, >>>>> >>>>>>and track 20 (track 4 of submix 2) has 256 ms latency. What = would be >>=20 >> the >>=20 >>>>>>procedure with Vertex to even all tracks out across the project? >>&g
creator: Aaron Allen
date: 2006-12-27T06:17:03-00:00

Re: Vista knows best
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description: >>=20 >> I >>=20 >>>>>>>had an email exchange with the developer today regarding 98 -- = he says >>>>>>>it shouldn't be a problem and encouraged me to try the demo. = Which >>>>>>>I'll do, as soon as I'm done with this batch of mixes I'm busy = with >>>>>>>right now (don't want to throw *anything* new into this system = until >>>>>>>this job is done). But, if he gets this "manual latency" = compensator >>>>>>>gizmo working, I'll buy just for that and for the extra solo = and mute >>>>>>>capability. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>-- thanks for keeping on top of these developments -- much = appreciated >>>>>>>-- chas. >>>>>>> >>>&g
creator: John [1]
date: 2006-12-27T12:09:56-00:00

Re: Vista knows best
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description: t;>> >>>>>samples, >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>not 32768. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Take another example: Track 1 has a plug-in with 16384 = samples of >>>> >>>>latency. >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Track 2 has a plug-in with a latency of 8192 samples. What = FaderWorks >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>will >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>do is: Tracks 1 will pass through as it is, track 2 will be = delayed >>>>>> >>>>>>by >>>>>> >>>>>>>>8192 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>samples and all other tracks will be delayed by 16384 = samples. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>What counts for the overall latency is the largest latency = of any >>>> >>>>track. >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>You calculate the sum of latencies only for individual = tracks when >>>>> >>>>>you >&gt
creator: DJ
date: 2006-12-27T14:13:24-00:00

Re: Vista knows best
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description: ;>>> >>>>>>>>e.g. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>put several uad1 behind on the same track. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>ISN'T that WHAT WE WANT ? !!! >>>>>>>>>>>If we don't buy this vertex we have to jump off Paris !! :) >>>>>>>>>>>Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>Dimitrios=20 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>That is what we want, but extremely high playback latencies = will >>=20 >> probably >>=20 >>>>>>>>>>cause a delay between fader and mute actions and audible = execution >>>> >>>>(and >>>> >>>>>>>>also >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>delay meters). I need to make automation decisions with = effects in >>>> >>>>place, >>>> >>>>>>>>>>so extremely long delays could be problematic.=20 >>>>>>>>>>Any chance we could pick from a list or assign a total = delay? >>>>>>>>>>Gene >>>>>>>>>>This is exciting. >>>>>>>>> >>=20 I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you? http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html ------=_NextPart_000_0054_01C73EF3.6183A160 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> A couple of weeks?!?!&nbsp; That's alot = of=20 latency. Tom &nbsp; &nbsp; <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> "Dimitrios" &lt;<A=20 href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr&gt; wrote in = message=20 <A = href=3D"news:45b64aaa$1@linux">news:45b64aaa$1@linux... Dear= =20 Jeff, This is what makes this author a nice guy ... I proposed = it to him=20 to be added on his vertex and he reacted in a very positive way = improving=20 my idea and promissing a couple of weeks for this update to his = vertex that=20 will include the latency compensator. Hope this=20 helps. Regards, Dimitrios Jeff hoover &lt;<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:jkhoover@excite-DOT-com">jkhoover@excite-DOT-com&gt;=20 wrote: &gt;So is the compensator already in the product, or…
creator: TCB
date: 2006-12-27T15:20:30-00:00

Re: Vista knows best
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description: amp;gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;You open vertex dsp on every audio = track on=20 your 2 card system. &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;You can save that as a = template for=20 further projects. &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Now lets say you open on = track 1 a=20 plugin that has 16384 samples latency &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;, you = just type=20 16384 on that vertex's instance of audio track 1=20 and vertex &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;takes care of the rest 31 audio = tracks to=20 get alligned. &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Now you put a plugin on track 10 = which=20 has a latency of 16376 ,you=20 = just &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;type &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &= gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;that=20 number on track's 10 vertex instance and so vertex takes care = of &gt;&gt;=20 &gt;&gt; the &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;rest 31 audio = tracks=20 again meaning that it delays all other tracks in &gt;&gt; = &gt;&gt;=20 a &gt;&gt;=20 = &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;way &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;that = all=20 have this 16376 latency, menaing again that it just adds=20 12 samples &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;to track 10 and lives all other = 31 audio=20 tracks with same 16384=20 = latency &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;!! &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; = &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Isn't=20 that clever ?? &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Now you say you put a plugin on = track 4=20 of submix 2 that has a=20 = latency &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;of &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;= &gt;&gt;256=20 ms (you have here to translate it to samples as to have it on=20 = your &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;latency &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&g= t;&gt;&gt;list)=20 this is 1290 samples ,plus the 12 samples submix 2=20 introduces (Paris &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;feature) you will have a = total of=20 1302. &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Just type 1302 on track's 4 vertex = instance and=20 vertex will take this &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; very &gt;&gt;=20 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;same track to the 16384 latency situation=20 ! &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;This very clever delay compensator DOES not = add the=20 latencies but=20 = uses &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;the &…
creator: TCB
date: 2006-12-27T15:24:10-00:00

Re: Vista knows best
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description: mp;gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&g= t;&gt;&gt;&gt;author=20 suggests uses 1 mb memory per vertex instance , so for=20 = 32 audio &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;tracks= &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;with=20 vertex 32mb will be needed, for 64 paris audio tracks with=20 = vertex &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;64 &gt;&= gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;mb=20 will be needed. &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;I aggree with the = author's=20 132000 samples as maximum ,if you=20 = will ever &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;reach= &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;that=20 I say again. &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;Normally you would = never pass=20 1000 without uad1=20 = plugins... &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;Regards, &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt= ;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Dimitrios &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;Chas.=20 Duncan &lt;duncan5199ATsbcglobalDOTnet@&gt;=20 = wrote: &gt;&gt;&gt;&g
creator: John [1]
date: 2006-12-27T16:39:05-00:00

Re: Vista knows best
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description: t; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;and all=20 = other &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;audio=20 tracks get delayed that amount = ! &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;The=20 author just asks how much would be the maximum possible=20 = latency &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;needed &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;= &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;because=20 the 132000 maximum (only maximum if you will ever reach=20 = that &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;) &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;= &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;the &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&g= t;&gt;&gt;&gt;author=20 suggests uses 1 mb memory per vertex instance , so for=20 = 32 audio &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;tracks= &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;with=20 vertex 32mb will be needed, for 64 paris audio tracks with=20 = vertex &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;64 &gt;&= gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;mb=20 will be needed. &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;I aggree with the = author's 132000 samples as maximum ,if you=20 = will ever &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;reach= &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;that=20 I say again. &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;Normally you would = never=20 pass 1000 without uad1=20 = plugins... &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;Regards, &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt= ;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Dimitrios &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;Chas.=20 Duncan &lt;duncan5199ATsbcglobalDOTnet@&gt;=20 = wrote: &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt= ;&gt;&gt;Gene/Dimitrios: &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;&gt; &gt;&= gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;W ould=20 it even be necessary to "pick from a list" or "assign"=20 total &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;&gt;delay?&nbsp; Seems like = the=20 total delay would simply be as low (or=20 as high) &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;&gt;as needed to = compensate=20 for the plugins used.&nbsp; (Unless I'…
creator: excelav
date: 2006-12-28T19:25:18-00:00

Re: Vista knows best
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description: ;gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;&gt;&gt; "Dimitrios"=20 &lt;<A href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr&gt; = = wrote: &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt= ;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Here=20 is what the author wrote about his latency addon for=20 vertex..!! &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Track 1 = has a=20 latency of 16384 samples. The same is true for=20 = track &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;2. &gt;&gt;&gt;&g= t;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;As &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&= gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;track=20 1 and track 2 have the same latency they are already=20 = in sync, &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;but<BR= >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;&gt;&gt;all <= BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&g= t;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;other=20 tracks (the remaining 46 tracks) have to be delayed by=20 = 16384 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;samples, &gt;&gt;= &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;not=20 = 32768. &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt= ;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Tak e=20 another example: Track 1 has a plug-in with 16384=20 = samples of &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;latency. &gt;&gt;= &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Track=20 2 has a plug-in with a latency of 8192 samples. What=20 = FaderWorks &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt= ;&gt;&gt;will &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;= &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;do=20 is: Tracks 1 will pass through as it is, track 2 will be=20 = delayed &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;by &gt;= &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;8192 &gt;&gt;&= gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;sa= mples=20 and all other tracks will be delayed by 16384=20 …
creator: LaMont
date: 2006-12-28T20:22:22-00:00

Steve Jobs Hatred (was Re: Vista knows best)
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description: gio@comcast.net> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>Rod, >> >>Make a CD in itunes (already installed?) and burn a CD of wavs. >> >>Then rip into Paris in the normal fashion. I never have been able to do >> > = >> >> >> >>it any other way in itunes. I think it's part of their copy protection >> > = >> >>thing.?. >> >>They will put a limit on the number of CDs you can burn too. Nice of = >> >>them. >> >>Tom >> >> >> >> >> >> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@kc.rr.com> wrote in message = >> >>news:45b55d8c$1@linux... >> >> >> >> I just recieved some files to play on from a client. They are = >> >>#$#@%$&^$#!!! >> >> m4a files. So far I haven't been able to convert them to wave or mp3 >> > = >> >>files. >> >> Up till now I've been using the handy dandy CDex program to convert = >> >>mp3's >> >> to waves. Anyone know of a program that will do this??? My version of >> > = >> >>Wavelab >> >> will only do mp3's and Cubase SX3 is the same. I just wasted a half = >> >>hour >> >> on idiottunes with no success. Any one know of something out = >> >>there????? Bueller.....anyone????? >> >> Rod >> >> >> >> >> >>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you? >> >>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = >> >>charset=3Diso-8859-1"> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Rod, >> >> Make a CD in itunes (already = >> >>installed?) and burn a=20 >> >>CD of wavs. >> >> Then rip into Paris in the normal = >> >>fashion. I=20 >> >>never have been able to do >> >> it any other way in itunes. I = >> >>think it's part=20 >> >>of their copy protection thing.?. >> >> They will put a limit on the number of >> > = >> >>CDs you can=20 >> >>burn too. Nice of them. >> >> Tom >> >> >> >> >> >><BLOCKQUOTE=20 >> >>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = >> >>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> >> >> "Rod Lincoln" <<A=20 >> >> href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@kc.rr.com">rlincoln@kc.rr.com> wrote in = >> >>message=20 >> >> …
creator: Jamie K
date: 2006-12-28T21:32:12-00:00

Re: Vista knows best
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description: uncan5199ATsbcglobalDOTnet@> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>OK, that's understood then -- max latency not an issue. = Cool. And >>=20 >> I >>=20 >>>>>>>had an email exchange with the developer today regarding 98 = -- he says >>>>>>>it shouldn't be a problem and encouraged me to try the = demo. Which >>>>>>>I'll do, as soon as I'm done with this batch of mixes I'm = busy with >>>>>>>right now (don't want to throw *anything* new into this = system until >>>>>>>this job is done). But, if he gets this "manual latency" = compensator >>>>>>>gizmo working, I'll buy just for that and for the extra = solo and mute >>>>>>>capability. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>-- thanks for keeping on top of these developments -- much = appreciated >>>>>>>-- chas. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>On 23 Jan 2007 04:25:42 +1000, "Dimitrios" = <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Well there is no pick from the list thing. >>>>>>>>If you read all the posts you will understand that the = latency is due >>>>> >>>>>to >>>>> >>>>>>>>the amount you manually type on a ceratin vertex instance = vst plugin. >>>>>>>>so if you put a 64 samples latent vst plugin you just type = 64=20 >>>>> >>>>>and all other >>>>> >>>>>>>>audio tracks get delayed that amount ! >>>>>>>>The author just asks how much would be the maximum = possible latency >>> >>>needed >>> >>>>>>>>because the 132000 maximum (only maximum if you will ever = reach that >>>> >>>>) >>>> >>>>>>the >>>>>> >>>>>>>>author suggests uses 1 mb memory per vertex instance , so = for 32 audio >>>>>> >>>>>>tracks >>>>>> >>>>>>>>with vertex 32mb will be needed, for 64 paris audio tracks = with vertex >>>>>> >>>>>>64 >>>>>> >>>>>>>>mb will be needed. >>>>>>>>I aggree with the author's 132000 samples as maximum ,if = you will ever >>>>>> >>>>>>reach >>>>>> >>>>>>>>that I say again. >>>>>>>>Normally you would never pass 1000 without uad1 plugins... >>>>>>>>Regards, >>>>>>>>Dimitrios >>>>>>>>Chas. Duncan <duncan5199ATsbcglobalDOTnet@> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Gene/Dimitrios: >>>>>>>>> >…
creator: TCB
date: 2006-12-28T23:02:54-00:00

Re: Vista knows best
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description: =20 I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you? http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html ------=_NextPart_000_007E_01C73EFB.C562FA20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> If this latency compensator shows up in = two weeks=20 I'll be floored. I'll be surprised whenever it shows = up.&nbsp;=20 $45?&nbsp; Duh. Tom &nbsp; &nbsp; <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> "DJ" &lt;<A=20 = href=3D"http://www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com">www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com&gt; = wrote in=20 message <A = href=3D"news:45b65d47@linux">news:45b65d47@linux... ROTFL!!!!! &nbsp; (patience gwasshoppa') &nbsp; ;o) <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> "Tom Bruhl" &lt;<A=20 href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net&gt; = wrote in=20 message <A = href=3D"news:45b655ee@linux">news:45b655ee@linux... A couple of weeks?!?!&nbsp; That's = alot of=20 latency. Tom &nbsp; &nbsp; <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> "Dimitrios" &lt;<A=20 href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr&gt; = wrote in=20 message <A=20 = href=3D"news:45b64aaa$1@linux">news:45b64aaa$1@linux... Dear= =20 Jeff, This is what makes this author a nice guy ... I = proposed it to=20 him to be added on his vertex and he reacted in a very = positive way=20 improving my idea and promissing a couple of weeks for this update = to his vertex that will include the latency = compensator. Hope this=20 helps. Regards, Dimitrios Jeff hoover &lt;<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:jkhoover@excite-DOT-com">jkhoover@excite-DOT-com&gt;=20 wrote: &gt;So is the compensator already in the product, or do = we have=20 a …
creator: Jamie K
date: 2006-12-28T23:33:50-00:00

Re: Vista knows best
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description: es (Paris &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;feature) you will have = a total=20 of 1302. &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Just type 1302 on track's 4 vertex = instance and vertex will take this &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;=20 very &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;same track to the 16384 = latency=20 situation ! &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;This very clever delay = compensator DOES=20 not add the latencies but=20 = uses &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;the &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&g= t;&gt;biggest=20 amoung all instances and alligns the rest = ! &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;I hope=20 this=20 = helps. &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Regards, &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Dimitrios<B= R>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; "Phil=20 Aiken" &lt;<A href=3D"mailto:asdf@asdf.sdf">asdf@asdf.sdf&gt;=20 = wrote: &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt= ;&gt;&gt;&gt;I=20 am a little unclear still.... &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;For = arguments=20 sake, let's say I have a 32 track project on 2 cards, &gt;&gt;=20 &gt;&gt; with &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;plugins = of=20 various latencies...track 1 has 16384 ms. track 10 has=20 = 16376 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;ms, &gt;&gt;&gt;&= gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;and=20 track 20 (track 4 of submix 2) has 256 ms latency. What would=20 be &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; the &gt;&gt;=20 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;procedure with Vertex to even all = tracks out=20 across the=20 = project? &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&= gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&g= t;Chas.=20 Duncan &lt;duncan5199ATsbcglobalDOTnet@&gt;=20 = wrote: &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;OK,= 20 that's understood then -- max latency not an issue.&nbsp; = Cool.&nbsp;=20 And &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; I &gt;&gt;=20 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;had an email exchange with the = developer=20 today regarding 98 -- he says &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;it = shouldn't be a problem and encouraged me to try the demo.&nbsp;=20 Which &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;I'll do, as soon as I'm…
creator: Chris Ludwig
date: 2006-12-29T00:44:31-00:00

Re: Vista knows best
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description: &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;you &gt;= &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;e.g. &gt;&gt;&gt;&= gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;put=20 several uad1 behind on the same=20 = track. &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt= ;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;ISN 'T=20 that WHAT WE WANT ? = !!! &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;If=20 we don't buy this vertex we have to jump off Paris !!=20 = :) &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Regards, &gt;&gt;&gt= ;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&am p;gt;Dimitrios=20 = &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&= gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;"Dimitrios"=20 &lt;<A = href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr&gt;=20 = wrote: &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt= ;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;&gt;&gt;That= =20 is what we want, but extremely high playback latencies = will &gt;&gt;=20 &gt;&gt; probably &gt;&gt;=20 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;&gt;&gt;cause a delay between = fader=20 and mute actions and audible=20 = execution &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;(and &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;= &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;also &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;= gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;&gt;&gt;delay=20 meters). I need to make automation decisions with=20 = effects in &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;place, &gt;&gt;&g= t;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;&gt;&gt;so=20 extremely long delays could be problematic.=20 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;&gt;&gt;Any chance we could = pick from=20 a list or assign a total=20 = delay? &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;&gt;&gt;Gene &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt= ;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;This=20 is exciting. &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;=20 I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight = spam, and=20 you? <A=20 = href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/ref…
creator: DJ
date: 2006-12-29T03:26:25-00:00

Re: Vista knows best
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description: s and much as just musical birds of a feather who share a lot of > >> common influences -- Beatles, '60s psychedelia, and odd influences like > >> Beefheart and Zappa. I do think that anyone who likes XTC will like > >> Sarahtonin. (Available at CD Baby www.cdbaby.com/cd/sarahtonin ) We > >> also > >> sell it on our website www.sarahtonin.com but the shopping cart system is > >> temporarily down. > >> > >> OK, end of crass self-promotion, back to "XTC is great." :) I have all > >> their albums, including their Dukes of Stratosphear alter ego, and I > >> don't > >> think there's a bad record among 'em. Great writing, amazing guitar > >> work,and Colin Moulding has to be one of the most creative bass players > >> in > >> the universe. Not nearly the fame and fortune they deserved. > >> > >> "Even I never know where I go when my eyes are closed" - Andy Partridge > > from > >> "Chalkhills and Children" > >> > >> Sarah > >> > >> > >> > >> "Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message > >> news:45b43650@linux... > >> > XTC is the best. They released their best album in years with "Apple > >> > Venus". > >> > Gorgeous. > >> > > >> > I think they've recently called it quits after all these years. > >> > > >> > Love love love them. Andy is my hero. Lyrics like nobody else. > >> > > >> > "Summers Cauldron" from "Skylarking". That says it best. Just listen to > >> > that > >> > for a good sampling. > >> > > >> > > >> > "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message > > news:45b4344a@linux... > >> >> OK, I confess . . . these guys are about my favorititest band ever, > >> >> and > > I > >> >> just laughed out loud at this great early, early video. Before Dave > >> > Gregory > >> >> even . . . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnhVulJiswo > >> >> > >> >> Never even heard this song before today. Damn, Andy was cute when he > > was > >> >> young . . . > >> >> > >> >> Sorry . . . > >> >> > >> >> Sarah > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > >Indeed. Jimmy "…
creator: TCB
date: 2006-12-29T20:14:01-00:00

Re: Vista knows best
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description: e UAD1 plugin's latency will come down to 4096 samples !! > Four times less that UAD1 wrapped by Fxpansion 3.3 . > Now on the above scenario if you DON'T PUT more than on UAD1 plugin on > SAME > audio track, meaning you can put 128 instances of UAD1 plugins if you have > 4 uad1 cards and are able to load that much on them you STILL DO NOT PASS > that 4096 total sample latency !!! > Add to that some waves or T-racks and eds effects ADD to that the submix > delay compensatio (12 samples from card1 to card 2 and 2 samples > thereafter) > you will normally not exceed the 5000 samples latency overall on a dense > mix. > That is 113 ms overall. > Now if you don't use UAD1 cards you will normally never get passed the 300 > samples which is 6-7 ms which is VERY VERY low and automation is not a > problem > at all. > Regarding automation though I have made a test with wormhole 32 audio > tracks > from Cubase to Paris with a latency of 7500 samples and whenever I was > recording > automation in real time the playback was exactly as I recorded it !! > So whats all about that automation thing accoring to audio track's latency > ??? > I would like to know that ! > Hope the above will help understand that now someone is willing to build > something we only were dreaming of , DELAY COMPENSATOR , and we are still > skeptical like if ID is making it :) > We ghave to applause this vertex author and give him all the support > needed > BECAUSE we the actual buyers of this vertex will surely ask later for an > update with some enhanced features and we must show that we are not just > 4,5 or 6 Paris users outr there interested only. > I ask you to forgive me if someone gets offended by this post as this is > not my intention but things can get better for us Paris users and we may > survive in keeping Paris up to date ! > Regards, > DimitriosSorry, I totally missed the explanation of the Spinaudio wrapper. That addresses a lot of my questions/concerns.. Thanks, Deej "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!…
creator: Jamie K
date: 2006-12-29T21:05:00-00:00

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creator: Dedric Terry
date: 2007-01-01T21:12:52-00:00

Re: Vista knows best
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creator: Dedric Terry
date: 2007-01-01T21:33:03-00:00

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date: 2007-01-02T15:38:50-00:00