gt;>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/j47d52oo/event/ >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Very cool..But, I'm still gleaming over my new Treo 700wx.. >It >>>>like >>>>>>>>> having >>>>>>>>>>>>> a: >>>>>>>>>>>>> MP3player >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ms word, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Excel, >>>>>>&gt
t saying check >it out, it's cool! > > >"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote: >> >>Hi Ted and others, >> >>I think the reason(s) why the mention of Steve Jobs and Keynotes brings >out >>so much venom, as you say, is because of the both the past and even current >>lies and propaganda that spews from his mouth.. >> >>Statements like : Re-invent and Faster Personal Computer ever in my opinion >>is just plain wrong. I know too many had working people who believed His >>(Jobs) hype. Only to be sorely disa pointed when they found out that the >>Cpu test were rigged, and their Mac did "crash" on both OS8,9 and even OS-X(all >>versions). >> >>He (Jobs) usually mocks at windows user and Microsoft when he starts his >>keynote.(read: Dumb) When 90 percent of this world are using Windows based >>computers. >> >>So, the venom is actually corrections to the lies Mr Jobs spews. When Mac >>users come and reguritate Mr Jobs lies, most Windows users will not just >>let them get away with such. >> >>I don't see anything wrong with setting the record straight. >>P.S. >>The Mac Pro is currently thee fastest Personal Computer on the market.. &gt
gt;>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The Iphone is cool, but not revolutionary. My Treo 700Wx (Windows) >>>>>> is >>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>>>> a s cool and Superior AND is very comaptible with my PC and all >>>MS >>>>>> applications >>>>>>>>>>> and other Windows apps. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> www.treo.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Here the Keynote video demo that explains the iPhone in detail, >>>>you >>>>>>>might >>>>>>>>>>>> want to watch it. The features, design and user interface are >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> superior. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/j47d52oo/event/ >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Very cool..But, I'm still gleaming over my new Treo 700wx..<
br /> >It >>>>like >>>>>>>>> having >>>>>>>>>>>>> a: >>>>>>>>>>>>> MP3player >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ms word, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Excel, >>>>>>>>>>>>> powerpoint, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Outlook 2003, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Media Player 10 >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sprint TV >>>>>>>>>>>>> Camera >>>>>>>>>>>>> Recorder >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cool keyboard >>>>>>>>>>>>> Very fast Internet connection speeds.. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> This thing is IS like carring around a laptop in my pocket.. >>:) >>>>>>>>>>>>> For Pc user(Windows) is does not get any better than this.. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> LaMont >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some video highlights: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://news.com.com/1606-2_3-6148642.html?part=rss&tag=2 547-1_3-0-20=news >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> More and better pictures: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/the-apple-iphone/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is it a phone Is it a PDA? is it a movie playing iPod?<br /
/> > It was until both we went to windows based machines (gateways&Compaqs @Dells) > did we (IT crew) noticed (in disbelief) that the PC workstations and Servers > were Blazing!!! > > Before, with the macs we used the built-in Apple Talk for networking and > file sharing. Ho humm...Slow, but it worked. Security was a big issue there. > > > Well, when we start implementing (1989-90) Novell Netware into certain work > groups (GMAC), again the WoW!! factor!! Blazing performance even with some > Macs thrown on the novell network. BUT, mac's Apple Talk would reak Holly > havoc on the Novell network,and thus workarounds had to used .. After a while, > the entire business community waited for Apple to fix their Apple-Talk-IP > problems, so Macs could play nice on a Novell Network,But apple just pretty > much thumbed their noses.. > > So, we (GM)dropped Apples Macs, and went Windows based. And so did most of > the Big Three and all Tier 1,2, & three vendors. > The moral to that story is: You don't us what we want and can have (We) Corporations > Tell you what we want.. You either deliver or we're moving on.. > And so did DTE: Who were mac based up until 1996. Same scenario as above > but I almost forgot about apple's Very Poor Customer service. > > back in days , Apple treated their customers Big and small like a third world > nations. Put plainly, their customer server sucked big time. Then to add > insult to injury, they Apple) would drop support for a given Mac while still > (supposedly) under warranty. Calls were not returned, promises broken.. Apples > dealing with big business was a disaster.. > > That's were Dell came in riding on his shining horse. back then(90's) Dell > built- a great PC with to this day , unheard of customer support. > > The G4: > The G4 was OK if you had programmers that would code for the Altivec engine. > If the app was not optimized for the Altivec, then it was low on the food > chain as compared to a AMD K2, Athlon,Athlon XP PIII, P4. There were not > That many Mac apps Optimized or coded for the Altivec. NoT even Paris. Edmund > once stated that, re-coding most apps for the altivec would be too cost prohibitive > and very time consuming.. > > So, yes on paperthe G4 was cool, but it neverlived up to it's potential. > > > James, I call then as I see them. I was @ the the Digidesign /Emagic pony > show back in 1995 where they were showing Logic Audio 3.0 on the mac and > the newly windows version. The Emagic and Digi guys were just snikering > away about how they really never tested the perormance on the windows version,and > pretty much stated that it was best if we all went witha mac.. Well.. They > into their presentation and started to do side by side Logic routines on > both version of Logic. > > Well, to their disbelief, the Windos based version of Logic was finnishing > all of their task much faster than the Mac. Even the Digi guys were astounded. > The Emagic guys were just as stunned. In every side by side they did, the > PC ran cirles around the supposedly superior mac . Well, needless to say, > after that pony was over, The Southfield Guitar Center
e you kidding..!!! Are you Kidding > me. If I was not around to either (Upgrade, apply Mac OS-X tweaks, Hardware > upgrades,).. Man, because of the volume of work those formentioned macs, > even on PT -HD3, those mac will crash..And crash Hard.. > > Oh, and let's not forget about how to recover froma mac crash.Expecially > on OS9...You had to reload the entire OS. How Stupid is that!!??? At least > with Windows, you can find the offending file (DLL) and patch in a fix or > runa repair utility.. > > By the way: AMD was Apples first choice, until Intel came with the Don King > paper bag of Cash to go with their chip..And, AMD is still on the Apple table > for thier X-servers and other new products.. > > Steve Jobs is the 21st century PT Barnum. He say lies, you all believe with > spew hook line and sinker. You mac guys/Gals have had this "walking on water" > feeling for a long time, and when windows was a viable option for pro-audio, > we we not to question the mac so- called superiority. > > But, that all changed when Win 95 came out.. Yeah yeah..You say ripp off..But, > I say It was faster, and better than My Mac OS8/9. Then every smart people > start performing tweeks that help Windows achieve it's still stellar DAW > performance. > > Trust me, If Mac had 90 percent of Personal computing market, there 2 would > be certified Apple enginners, Just like there are Lotus, Cisco, Netware, > Unix and other non windows professional IT certifications.. > > > "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote: >> LaMont I love ya man, but I gotta call you out on this one. The G4 you > work >> on is a 867Mhz right? That machine is from 2001! That's a six year old >> machine your talking about being slow!!!! Check it out at www.apple-history.com >> >> You conveniently remember things the way you want to. When Apple announced >> that they had the fastest personal computer on the planet, they did. That >> was the truth, that's the fact, if it wasn't, Intel, AMD, Dell, Gateway, >> HP, and every other other PC manufacture would have sued Apple and won!!!!! >> Now might be a good time for you to file a suit against Apple if you think >> they misrepresented a product they sold you. However, I think you would >> find that claim would be frivolous. Computer processors through out history >> have quickly leapfrogged each other in processing power. For a time the >> were the fastest. The testing was done independently. The Mac bashing > PC >> zealots spread the lie that the tests were fixed. >> >> The G4 was a good processor, it was noted in the industry for being a work >> horse. The G4 was fast in it's time, in computer years, that was a long >> time ago. Your still complaining about it, and calling Steve Jobs a lier. >> Of corse every company uses marketing spin, Jobs doesn't lie. And at least >> Apple doesn't steal the technology and call it their own. Once again the >> G4 had a different architecture than the Pentium chips. The G4
was >pissed. >> I know first hand, they told me. They also told me they were going to >get >>Apple back because they had a 90 million dollar charge off. They stalled >>Apple on G4 processor shipments and intentionally slowed the processor speed >>jumps. >> >>Apple turned to IBM. When Jobs announced the G5 for the first time, he >stated >>in the keynote that they would be at 3 GHz with in a year, and the road >map >>looked great. That was IBMs road map. IBM couldn't deliver!!!! Two years >>later Apple was at 2.7GHz, and not the newer generation G5s. The G5 was >>too hot! Apple even turned to Delphi automotive to develop a cooling system. >> They had no way of putting the G5 in a laptop. So they went with one of >>Apples contingency plans they had been working on for five years, Intel! >> Intel had a new generation of processors coming out, that were faster, >cooler >>and they also had a low power consuming mobile processors. It was a no >brainer, >>win, win deal. Intel could deliver. I think it was also a message to MS >>to keep working with Apple on MS Office development for the Mac. >> >>You have to bash the Mac every chance you get. You have taken things personally. >> Your venom for Steve Jobs is unbelievable. I think you need to be honest >>about things. How many new Mac computers have you personally bought? Your >>still not over Logic, and even though you don't use logic you rip on it >every >>chance you get. It's the same old PC zealot stuff, Logic sucks and it's >>all done. Apple's going out of business any minute now, try again! >> >>In the past, some big organizations did some studied on cost of operation. >> Boeing, Hues Aircraft, the US Navy and others. What they found was they >>needed a minimum of 6 people for every 100 PCs to maintain them. They only >>needed 0 to one person to maintain 100 Macs. The cost difference was significant. >> The truth is Mac users don't really need IT guys like the PC world does. >> You IT guys know it and you hate that. >> >>So lets tell some truth. Your a Microsoft certified IT guy, right? You >>have taken quite a few Microsoft training classes, right? And you make >your >>living with Microsoft products and Microsoft certification, right? The >real >>truth is Apple computers don't need IT Guys to maintain them. Apple computers >>are a perceived threat to It guys, that's why you guys all have so much >venom >>for anything Apple. It's not that Apple sucks, it's that you guys all hate >>any thing Apple. Why don't you just admit it? >> >>You said or at least insinuated that Windows is a standard, but anything >>Mac is not. In many cases Apple has created the standard and MS just copies >>it. It's all just typical Mac bashing PC zealot stuff. It's down right >>insulting to a Mac user to say that were drinking the Steve Jobs Kool-Aid. >> The insinuation is that we are all stupid people that are gullible enough >>to believe a bunch of lies. That we use an inferior product. Like I say >>your welcome to sue Apple any time your ready to back up your BS. If you >>were honest about it all, you be speaking up about MS's behavior instead >>of giving THEM the free pass! Dude, to rip on Apple or Steve Jobs, and >in >>effect putting down Mac users every chance you get is just plain lame. >> >>Apple doesn't suck, just admit it. >> >> >>By the way, My original post had noting to do wit