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Fruit computers
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description: eliefs of a few >>>>>>> terrorists directly control their course of action (or inaction). >>>>>> Jamie, >>>>>> >>>>>> Are you referring to those few wacky terroists who killed over 3,000 >>>>>> innocent people in the World Trade Centers, crashed a jumbo jet into >>>>>> our Pentagon, and, but for the extreme courage of some passengers, >>>>>> almost flew a jumbo jet into our W
creator: TCB
date: 2006-10-16T13:59:10-00:00

Re: Fruit computers
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description: t;>>>>> economically, on >>>>>>>>> the kindness of strangers." >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://www.newyorker.com/talk/content/articles/050418ta_talk _surowiecki >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Gene >>>>>>>>> >>How do you render a midi track playing a vst instrument to an audio file (that's positioned correctly) ? tia, -CarlHey Chuck, try Jeff Wagner at Wagtech - http://www.wagtechsound.com/sound-lights.htm. He's a good guy, has good gear and good people working for him. I think he's also reasonably priced... he's certainly a lot cheaper than Maryland Sound! Gantt "chuck duffy" <c&#6
creator: Chris Ludwig
date: 2006-10-16T14:26:01-00:00

Re: Fruit computers
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description: icy. >>>>>> >>>>>> In individual cases it may or may not make sense to employ diplomacy >>>>>> and negotiation. That judgment cannot be wisely made by anyone who >>>>>> lets themselves be controlled by knee-jerk thinking. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> -Jamie >>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Tony Benson wrote: >>>>>>> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:455374c4@linux... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We also need leadership that won't let the wacky beliefs of a few >>>>>>>> terrorists directly control their course of action (or inaction). >>>>>>> Jamie, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Are you referring to those few wacky terroists who killed over 3,000 >>>>>>> innocent people in the World Trade Centers, crashed a
creator: Ab
date: 2006-10-16T14:58:42-00:00

Re: Fruit computers
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description: &gt;&lt;FONT=3D20 &gt;&nbsp; face=3D3D3DArial=20 size=3D3D3D2&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt; =3D &gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&gt;=20 =3D20 &gt;&nbsp; &lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20 size=3D3D3D2&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;=3D20 &gt;&nbsp; = &lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&gt;=20 &lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT=3D20 &gt;&nbsp; = size=3D3D3D2&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;I=20 choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight=3D20 &gt;&nbsp; = =3D3D&lt;BR&gt;&gt;spam,=20 and=3D3D20&lt;BR&gt;&gt; =3D20 &gt;&nbsp;=20 you?&lt;BR&gt;&lt;A=3D3D20&lt;BR&gt;&amp ;gt;=20 =3D &gt;=3D3D&lt;BR&gt;&gt;href=3D3D3D"&lt;A=3D20 &gt;&nbsp;=20 = =3D &gt;href=3D3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html"&gt;http://www.po= lesoft.com/refer=3D &gt;'&gt;http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html"&gt;ht= tp://www.polesoft.com/refer&lt;/A=3D &gt;&gt;=3D3D&lt;BR&gt;&gt;.html&= lt;/A&gt;=3D20 &gt;&nbsp;=20 = =3D &gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/BL OCKQU
creator: Neil
date: 2006-10-16T15:59:07-00:00

Re: Fruit computers
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description: >&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; ------=_NextPart_000_007D_01C704D7.A9127F70--DJ wrote: >> No one has advocated military disarmament in this thread. > > <snip> >> We should, however, be very aware and careful to not sacrifice the essence >> of American freedom and human rights to the altar of terrorism. >> > > > The patriot act and NSA wiretaps (immediate-no ***ing around trying to get a > warrant when you don't even know what you're really looking to find) are the > weapons I'm talking about here. It'sd a shame but our laws in this respect > have become our enemy's weapon. In order to deprive him of it, we must > sacrifice it. There are elements of the Patriot act; our move toward justifying torture; and aspects to wholesale wiretapping of American citizens that are very unamerican IMO. We must be extremely careful that we do not permanently lose our place in history as a great step forward in personal freedom and opportunity. Either by some nutcase reducing St. Louis to a nuclear wasteland or by some other nutcase legislating away our core ideals. I don't care how sincere the nutcase, those are both extremely damaging actions to America. This is not an easy problem, so we need every viable idea on the table and we need to come together with respect. And we need to remember: "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -Ben Franklin. Cheers, -Jamie www.JamieKrutz.com > > "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:4554b420@linux... >> DJ wrote: >>>> Ask a military planner. Fear is the path to panic, not the basis for >>> sound policy or strategy. Ask any dictator, fear is an effective way to >>> enslave.< >>> >>> Ask any military planner and he will tell you that without the weapons to >>> do the job he will not be able to do it. >> No one has advocated military disarmament in this thread. >> >> My point is that it's important to operate from a position of strength >> derived from rational plan…
creator: Jamie K
date: 2006-10-16T16:25:00-00:00

Re: Fruit computers
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description: ere's 'Freeze' button there somewhere or it's in a pulldown menu. Tom "Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote in message = news:4554cbad$1@linux... How do you render a midi track playing a vst instrument to an audio = file (that's positioned correctly) ? tia, -Carl I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you? http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html ------=_NextPart_000_0097_01C704D8.0B0DCF90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> Carl, There's 'Freeze' button there somewhere = or it's in=20 a pulldown menu. Tom <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> "Carl Amburn" &lt;<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com">carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com= &gt;=20 wrote in message <A=20 href=3D"news:4554cbad$1@linux">news:4554cbad$1@linux... How = do you=20 render a midi track playing a vst instrument to an audio = file (that's=20 positioned correctly) ? tia, -Carl I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, = and=20 you? <A=20 href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer= ..html&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ------=_NextPart_000_0097_01C704D8.0B0DCF90--Gantt, The best way I've found to do this is to open the sequence editor, select a point past the end of the song on the timeline, arm all tracks and record a few seconds of silence. Select all those silent "soundbites" and drag them to very beginning of the timeline. Now select all of the soundbites in the project. Go to the "Audio" menu dropdown and select "merge soundbites" (I think that's it anyway). Now you should have all of the tracks starting at zero. There may an easier way, but I haven't found it yet. I got spoiled by the "render tracks" command in PARIS, as it inserts the silence back to zero for you automatically. Anyway, hope this helps. Tony "Gantt Kushner" <gant…
creator: TCB
date: 2006-10-16T17:00:20-00:00

Re: Fruit computers
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description: ow you can always unfreeze a = track for=20 further tweaks.brilliant! <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
creator: DC
date: 2006-10-16T17:38:48-00:00

Re: Fruit computers
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description: d take nothing for granted only an alert and > >> knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of huge industrial > >> and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so > >> that security and liberty may prosper together." > >> > >> > >> > >>>> At any rate, it would be inaccurate to imply that anyone who doesn't > >>>> agree with a particular course of action is blind, deaf and dumb to > >>>> potential threats. < > >> OK, we agree on that, right? > >> > >> > >>> It would be inaccurate to imply that wars have not *always* required > >>> great sacrifices from the citizenry of the respective combatants. > >> Right, no one has advocated a sacrifice-free response in this thread. > >> Although our current president and congress have actively worked to make > >> it seem like little sacrifice has been required by, for the first time in > >> history (correct me if I'm wrong), cutting taxes in time of war. Of course > >> this only delays the sacrifice a generation or two. > >> > >> We should, however, be very aware and careful to not sacrifice the essence > >> of American freedom and human rights to the altar of terrorism. > >> > >> > >>>> Not a true nor useful characterization. Divisive at > >>> best. And dividing ourselves IS one road to defeat.< > >>> > >>> I agree 100%. It seems that half the folks in this country believe we are > >>> in > >> Then we can be united despite our differences. Like a composite material > >> with fibers in different layers running in different directions we can be > >> bonded together, stronger for our union. :^) > >> > >> IOW, it's OK that we sometimes think differently, as long as we listen to > >> each other, respect each other and can consider each other's viewpoints. > >> We can draw on all of our strengths to innovate workable solutions. > >> > >> > >>> a war, the other half don't. This is a sure recipe for disaster, > >>> especially in a war with an enemy who uses our own laws against us. To > >>> ignore …
creator: Jamie K
date: 2006-10-16T19:02:07-00:00

Re: Fruit computers
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description: o Cubase comp #2 > > <FONT face=3D3D3DArial=3D3D20 > > =3D3D > >size=3D3D3D2> &nbs=3D3D > >p; =3D3D20 > > via 100mbps LAN. This guy will take up the slack for the = =3D3D > >Cubase=3D3D20 > > rig if need be. > > > > My application is = for heavy =3D >use of > =3D3D > >Kontakt,=3D3D20 > > multiple softsynths and surely Creamware <FONT =3D >face=3D3D3DArial=3D3D20 > > size=3D3D3D2>plugs of all sorts. > > Music styles = ranging from =3D >rock, =3D3D > >heavy synth,=3D3D20 > > orchestral and sometimes <FONT face=3D3D3DArial =3D >size=3D3D3D2>in =3D3D > >between all=3D3D20 > > of those. > > > > My goal is to have = =3D >solid/stable =3D3D > >performance by=3D3D20 > > not abusing any one computer in the network. > > Also to maintain an = almost =3D >=3D3D > >unlimited amount of=3D3D20 > > close to real-time processing power <FONT =3D >face=3D3D3DArial=3D3D20 > > size=3D3D3D2>throughout. > > > > I am looking into = Windows =3D >Remote =3D3D > >Desktop to=3D3D20 > > help with monitor/keyboard assignments. > > I expect to have 4 = monitors =3D >and two > =3D3D > > > > keyboard/mice combos with one KVM between comp 1 & =3D3D > >2. > > I'm about 2 = monitors, a =3D >Matrox =3D3D > >Triple Head 2 Go=3D3D20 > > and Kontakt away before I'm all the way there. > > > > Anyone see anything = =3D >blatantly wrong > =3D3D > >with my=3D3D20 > > design? I'm still Scoping it out! > > Thanks for your = =3D3D > >input, > > Tom > > > > > > I choose Polesoft Lockspam = to fight =3D >=3D3D > >spam, and=3D3D20 > > you? <A=3D3D20 > > =3D3D > =3D = >>href=3D3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com= /re=3D >fer=3D3D > >.html =3D3D > > > > > > > > > > ><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D >charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> > > > > > Heil, > No wireless for me. Just a =3D >crossover cable=3D20 >from one ethernet jack to the next. > LAN as I understand it is the = network =3D >via wired or=3D20 >wireless. > > That's about all I know except = speed of =3D >the=3…
creator: excelav
date: 2006-10-16T23:18:13-00:00

Re: Fruit computers
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description: ;not_here.dude">know-spam@not_here.dude</A'>mailt= o:know-spam@not_here.dude"&gt;know-spam@not_here.dude&lt;/A&gt;&gt;<B= R>=3D &gt;=3D3D &gt;&nbsp;=20 &gt;wrote in=3D3D20 &gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; message &lt;A = =3D3D &gt;&nbsp;=20 &gt;href=3D3D3D"<A=20 = href=3D'news:45549ea7@linux">news:45549ea7@linux...</DIV'>news:45549e= a7@linux"&gt;news:45549ea7@linux&lt;/A&gt;...&lt;/DIV&gt; &gt;&nbs= p;=20 &gt;&nbsp; &lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2&gt;What = protocol/type of =3D &gt;interface are =3D3D &gt;&nbsp; = &gt;you using=20 for=3D3D20 &gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; your=20 networking?&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt; &gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;=20 &lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20 size=3D3D3D2&gt;AA&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt ;&lt;/DIV&gt; &gt;&nbsp; = &gt;&nbsp;=20 &lt;BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3D3Dltr=3D3D20 &gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;=20 style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT:=20 5px; =3D &gt;=3D3D &gt;&nbsp; &gt;BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px = solid;=20 MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"&gt; &gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; = &lt;DIV&gt;"Tom=20 Bruhl" &lt;&lt;A=3D3D20 &gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; = href=3D3D3D"<A=20 = href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net"><a href="mailto:arpegio@comcast.net" targe
creator: Chris Ludwig
date: 2006-10-17T01:48:35-00:00

Re: Fruit computers
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description: ;&lt;A=3D20 &gt;&nbsp; href=3D3D"<A=20 = href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net>=3D20'>mailto= :arpegio@comcast.net"&gt;arpegio@comcast.net&lt;/A&gt;&gt;=3D20 &g= t;&nbsp;=20 = wrote:&lt;BR&gt;&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&gt;&a mp;lt;BR&gt;&gt;Aaron,=3D3D20&lt;BR&gt;& g= t;That's=20 the last step =3D &gt;I'll be=3D20 &gt;&nbsp; taking. and I = was hoping you=20 networkers =3D3D&lt;BR&gt;&gt;might = =3D &gt;help=3D20 &gt;&nbsp;=20 me&lt;BR&gt;&gt;with that. I was thinking the onboard LAN in the=20 ASUS=3D20 &gt;&nbsp; A8R-MVPcomp #2 =3D3D&lt;BR&gt;&gt;would do = to=20 a=3D3D20&lt;BR&gt;&gt;onboard ASUS =3D &gt;A7N8X-X LAN = in=3D20 &gt;&nbsp;=20 comp #3. I think a crossover cable should =3D3D&lt;BR&gt;&gt;do=20 =3D &gt;since&lt;BR&gt;&gt;I'm=3D20 &gt;&nbsp; not on the = internet with=20 any of my music rigs.&lt;BR&gt;&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&gt;Aar on is = =3D &gt;there=20 a=3D20 &gt;&nbsp; speed/functionality issue with this? Remember=20 = =3D &gt;'simple'&lt;BR&gt;=3D3D&lt;BR&gt;&am p;gt;is=3D20 &gt;&nbsp; = good for=20 me&lt;BR&gt;&gt;as long as it=20 =3D &gt;works.&lt;BR&gt;&gt;Tom&lt;BR&gt ;&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&gt;=20 =3D20 &gt;&nbsp; "Aaron Allen" &lt;&lt;A=3D20 &gt;&nbsp;=20 =3D &gt;href=3D3D"<A=20 = href=3D'mailto:know-spam@not_here.dude">know-spam@not_here.dude</A'>mailt= o:know-spam@not_here.dude"&gt;know-spam@not_here.dude&lt;/A&gt;&gt;=20 =3D &gt;wrote in=3D20 &gt;&nbsp; message=20 =3D3D&lt;BR&gt;&gt;news:45549ea7@linux...&lt;BR&gt;&gt; What=20 =3D &gt;protocol/type of=3D20 &gt;&nbsp; interface are you = using for your=20 networking?&lt;BR&gt;&gt; =3D20 &gt;&nbsp; = AA&lt;BR&gt;&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&gt;=20 "Tom Bruhl" &lt;&lt;A=3D20 &gt;&nbsp; href=3D3D"<A=20 = href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi= o@comcast.net"&gt;arpegio@comcast.net&lt;/A&gt;&gt;=20 wrote =3D &gt;in message=3D20 &gt;&nbsp;=20 =3D3D&lt;BR&gt;&gt;news:45542b13$1@linux...&lt;BR&gt;&gt; = Hey=3D20 &gt;&nbsp;=20 guys,&lt;BR&gt;&gt; I am no match for DJ when it comes to = =3…
creator: Chris Ludwig
date: 2006-10-17T01:56:30-00:00

Re: Fruit computers
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description: ping the Sunnis, Shiites, and Kurds from tearing each other up. Now it looks like that will happen anyway. The problem there is so huge and complicated, that I don't have hope anyone can "fix" it. We didn't create the "real" problem though. We just removed Hussein so the various divisions in Iraq could get back to their centuries old civil war unimpeded. I don't believe being tough with terrorists should be our only course of action. We need to explore all avenues to work toward better relations in the Middle East, and all around the world. Take care of protecting ourselves right now, and I'm all over the making friends thing. I must have mis-interpreted your "wacky beliefs of a few terrorists" statement. I thought you were implying that our risk from terrorists is not real, or something we need not aggressively address. I have a hypothetical question for you Jamie. If by some miracle we could reverse all the failed policy and all of our mis-steps, Israel went away, basically remove any and all reasons for the terrorists to hate us, what if after all that, they still hate us and want us dead? What if it really is a war of ideology? What if the "infidels" really must convert or die? What then? I don't wish anyone to die by war, aggression or violence, but at what point do we decide to either fight or lay down and wait to die. I pray to God that this isn't the case. I hope somehow we can find common ground and live in peace with everyone. I haven't heard the terrorists ever express this option though. I anticipate your response, but will refrain from replying back. You have much greater debating skills than I, and besides, I've already broken my promise not to get involved in political threads. I'm such an opinionated ass! ;>) With Respect, Tony "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:4554d313@linux... > > Hey Tony, > > I never said anything about "a few wacky terrorists." > > I was speaking of the wacky beliefs of a few terrorists, a very different > c…
creator: excelav
date: 2006-10-17T04:22:02-00:00

Re: Fruit computers
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description: ;Basic process (from an unmodified XP theme) Click start > settings >control panel In the control panel, double click the "network connections" icon In the new window that appears, should be something list under LAN OR HIGH SPEED, usually "Local area Connection" Right click on that connection and choose "properties" from the drop down menu. In the new window that appears, there is a configure button. Click on it. THen click on the "advanced" tab What you will see will vary depending on the Lan card and its driver. You are lookng for three things in the list of parameters; link speed, duplex, and flow control. Sometimes speed an duplex are combined. I'd get the recommendation from FX-teleport for duplex and flow control settings. My recommendation is: Speed: 100 (or 1000 if available) Duplex: full (as opposed to half) Flowcontrol: disabled Also got to the "power management" tab and turn off power management. Make sure both machines are configured exactly the same for these three parametes. Once this is all done Click "ok" once. On the Local area connections properties page (you should have returned there), there's a box with the following heading "This connection uses the following items". Scroll, usually to the bottom, and you'll find the "internet protocol (TCP/IP)". Click on it and click on the "properties" button below. On the general page that appears, select the "use the following ip address" radio button. Here's a config that will work for each machine Comp 2 IP address: 192.168.1.2 Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0 Comp 3 IP Address: 192.168.1.3 Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0 Gateway and DNS information is unnecessary, because you will not be going to the internet. Click "ok" and click "close". Stay on the network connections box to start verification. TO test the connection once both are configured, from computer 2, first connect the crossover cable. Look in the network connections boax and verify that status is connected for your local area connection. If it is, great…
creator: Chris Ludwig
date: 2006-10-17T06:40:42-00:00

Re: Fruit computers
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creator: rick
date: 2006-10-17T09:32:38-00:00

Re: Fruit computers
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description: and Kontakt away = >>before I'm all the way there. >> >> Anyone see anything blatantly wrong with my design? I'm still = >>Scoping it out! >> Thanks for your input, >> Tom=20 >> >> >> >> >> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you? >> http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html >> >> >> >><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = >>charset=3Diso-8859-1"> >> >> >> >> >> Aaron, >> That's the last step I'll be = >>taking. =20 >> and I was hoping you networkers might help me >> with that. I was thinking the = >>onboard LAN in=20 >>the ASUS A8R-MVPcomp #2 would do to a >> onboard ASUS A7N8X-X LAN in = >><FONT face=3DArial=20 >>size=3D2>comp #3. I think a crossover cable should do = >>since >> I'm not on the internet with any of my > = >>music=20 >>rigs. >> >> Aaron is there a speed/functionality = >>issue with=20 >>this? Remember 'simple' is good for me >> as long as it works. >> Tom >> >><BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 >>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = >>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> >> "Aaron Allen" <<A=20 >> = >>href=3D"mailto:know-spam@not_here.dude">know-spam@not_here.dude> = >>wrote in=20 >> message <A = >>href=3D"news:45549ea7@linux">news:45549ea7@linux... >> What protocol/type of interface are = >>you using for=20 >> your networking? >> AA >> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 >> style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = >>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> >> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20 >> href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net> = >>wrote in=20 >> message <A = >>href=3D"news:45542b13$1@linux">news:45542b13$1@linux... >> Hey guys, >> I am no match for DJ when it comes > = >>to this but=20 >> I am pursuing a controllable version of a monster = >>setup. >> >> I have a master plan that is as = >>simple as I can=20 >> figure to pump Paris full of = >>real-time=20 >> processing juice. >> Here it is. >> >> Comp #1: Paris is running = >>very well on a=20 >> XP P4 3.…
creator: excelav
date: 2006-10-17T18:41:23-00:00

Re: Fruit computers
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description: be, just maybe, we'll >>>>>> get some further options on the table now to meet this threat, and >>>>>> maybe, just maybe, they'll work better than the current approach which >>>>>> has hardly been flawless. >>>>>> >>>>>> Whatever we do, let's not allow ourselves to be manipulated by >>>>>> terrorists into strutting around acting like overcompensating insecure >>>>>> spendthrift fools while undercutting our own democracy with shifty >>>>>> eyed abject fear - IOW, becoming terrorized. Fear sells, but maybe, >>>>>> just maybe, we're better than that. >>>>>> >>>>>> The best way to be strong is to come together, work together and >>>>>> choose from the widest array of effective options. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> -Jamie >>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> DJ wrote: >>>>>>>> IOW, anyone who fails to take worthwhile action because of a >>>>>>>> perception that it will make them "seem weak" to someone else, is >>>>>>>> not smart enough >>>>>>> to be running foreign policy.< >>>>>>> >>>>>>> perception of weakenss is invitation to attack, plain and simple and >>>>>>> we are now (especially now) perceived as weak and undecided. I'm >>>>>>> predicting that we are going to be catastrophically attacked soon and >>>>>>> that it will come as a result iof an intelligence failure due to >>>>>>> democrats restricting the ability of the NSA to wiretap. I hope I'm >>>>>>> wrong. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:45538a31@linux... >>>>>>>> I'm referring to any US leader who bases their policy on pleasing or >>>>>>>> not pleasing terrorists. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> IOW, anyone who fails to take worthwhile action because of a >>>>>>>> perception that it will make them "seem weak" to someone else, is >>>>>>>> not smart enough to be running foreign policy. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In individual cases it may or may not make sense to employ diplomacy >>>>>>>> and negotiation. That judgment cannot be wisely made by anyone who >>>>>>>> lets th…
creator: Jamie K
date: 2006-10-17T18:59:14-00:00