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No mo' Matrox pour moi.....
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description: that can allow for up to 16 >>>channels/submixes of passive analog summing (or if not that, at >>>least DSP summing through something other than the PC's CPU) >>>your box & return to 2 new channels in the DAW app - if you can >>>do onboard DSP EFX, you can do onboard summing, too, yes sir >
creator: animix
date: 2006-10-11T22:20:58-00:00

Re: No mo' Matrox pour moi.....
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description: >>you KNOW you can! >>>***Throw in a copy of CubaseLE if you wanna... no need for a >>>complete/full-out app like SX or Nuendo - people can indeed buy >>>that separately if they want. >>>*** MIDI i/o... duh. >>>***Absolutely make it expandable to be able to easily link 2 >>>or more if someone needs more than 16 analog i/o's at once. >>>Encourages people to buy another if they ever want to go that >>>route anyway. >>>***It should be PCI-based, not Firewire or USB. One card. >>>Expansion units can be Firewired together via ports on the >>>units themselves, and routed through the same card. Maybe allow >>>for a max of 2 units per card to keep costs down... anyone >>>needing more than 32 analog i/o's at once will no doubt be in a >>>situation where they can go with PCI expansion chassis anyway. >>> >>>Price point should be ~$1,200 to $1,500, street. >>> >>>Can you imagine how many of these they could - and more >>>importantly WOULD - sell? >>> >>>I think it can be done for that price point - I mean look at >>>various units like the EMu 1812, the TC unit I just linked to >>>above, and the RME Multiface... all those units have various & >>>sundry of the features I mentioned for around HALF that price >>>(Multiface has 8 analog i/o's, plus other digital options, & >>>word clock, but no onboard DSP... Emu & TC units have half-ass >>>versions of less i/o's and one has no word clock, but both DO >>>have DSP EFX) how hard would it be to incorporate all of these >>>features I mentioned for twice to slightly more than twice the >>>price? >>> >>>I think the 16-minimum channels of straight-up analog i/o is the >>>biggest feature set that's missing from a lot of the half- >>>rack half-asses out there... you can do a full rock/pop/country >>>band with 16 in's - not a big huge major-label-type session >>>with top & bottom snare mics; front, back & outfront kick mics, >>>plus ambient room mics & a PZM taped to the wall or the >>>drummer's T-Shirt, plus five channels of bass & 19 chann…
creator: Tom Bruhl
date: 2006-10-11T23:01:28-00:00

Re: No mo' Matrox pour moi.....
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description: om> wrote: >>> About six years ago or so, I spoke to Max M. about them building a two > or >>> three space rack with 16 mic pres on combo connecters with 16 inserts, > 16 >>> out put and 16 channels of 24 bit Adat light Pipe I/O, and 16 24bit SP/DIF >>> I/Os. I tried to convince EMU that Paris would be a more complete and > professional >>> system with mic pres with inserts and 24bit Adat light pipe I/O and 16 > SP/DIFs. >>> L
creator: LaMont
date: 2006-10-11T23:33:45-00:00

Re: No mo' Matrox pour moi.....
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description: ater at a NAMM show, I talked Max in to walking with me over to see Malcolm >>> Toft MTA and Rick Nafi at Presonus, about OEMing their mic pres. Max's >> though >>> that Mic pres might be too subjective. He told me for quite some time > after >>> that, that they were considering building it and said several times stated >>> that it was discussed in their internal meetings. He even called it the >>> Paris Fire Station. I believe now, like many things he told me, it was >> just >>> lies to keep me pacified, until they could sell off all their inventory >> of >>> Paris hardware. >>> >>> I find it kind of funny that Malcolm Toft joined Ted Fletchers company > after >>> that and EMU OEMed their mic pres for the new EMU hardware. I want to > think >>> I made that connection. >>> >>> If you really want this product, you can make it happen by calling manufactures >>> and telling them what you want, just pick wisely! If you get enough people >>> to call over time things will happen. The price is another story. >>> >>> Many years ago, I told the drum hardware designer at Alesis, that I wanted >>> a drum module with dry drum sounds so I could effect them the way I wanted >>> in the studio. I also told them that I wanted a built in effect processor >>> for live use and studio work. I also wanted more triggers, more outputs, >>> headphone output with volume knob, and a audio in put so I could practice >>> to music. To my surprise, they built it in the DM PRO drum module. >>> >>> I made many suggestions to Greg Mackie that became products. Only problem >>> was, the ideas were bastardize, sliced and diced in to multiple products >>> and they charged three to four times more than I suggested for each product. >>> These companies want to slice and dice every thing and make big bucks. >>> If you want it all it's an expensive add on. I've talked to many of them >>> as a dealer, they think they can make more money selling little recording >>> boxes to bedroom guitar players or DJs. The…
creator: LaMont
date: 2006-10-11T23:35:29-00:00

Re: No mo' Matrox pour moi.....
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description: br /> >>>> muthafuckin' have, spend more than I muthafucking have again >>>> two years later"... >>>> >>>> ... so why hasn't somebody done this? THIS is the market we're >>>> all in, right? Those features at that price point? Wouldn't we >>>> all pay it? Tomorrow, first thing in the morning? Wouldn't >>>> about at least a quarter million other people that we don't >>>> even know about do the same? And it can be done (obviously, >>>> look at the half-assed feature sets at half the price that if >>>> combined, could add up to this type of unit at that price >>>> point!). >>>> >>>> So why? WHY hasn't anyone done this? >>&
creator: Aaron Allen
date: 2006-10-12T00:16:56-00:00

Re: No mo' Matrox pour moi.....
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description: d said several times stated >that it was discussed in their internal meetings. He even called it the >Paris Fire Station. I believe now, like many things he told me, it was just >lies to keep me pacified, until they could sell off all their inventory of >Paris hardware. > >I find it kind of funny that Malcolm Toft joined Ted Fletchers company after >that and EMU OEMed their mic pres for the new EMU hardware. I want to think >I made that connection. > >If you really want this product, you can make it happen by calling manufactures >and telling them what you want, just pick wisely! If you get enough people >to call over time things will happen. The price is another story. > >Many years ago, I told the drum hardware designer at Alesis, that I wanted >a drum module with dry drum sounds so I could effect them the way I wanted >in the studio. I also told them that I wanted a built in effect processor >for live use and studio work. I also wanted more triggers, more outputs, >headphone output with volume knob, and a audio in put so I could practice >to music. To my surprise, they built it in the DM PRO drum module. > >I made many suggestions to Greg Mackie that became products. Only problem >was, the ideas were bastardize, sliced and diced in to multiple products >and they charged three to four times more than I suggested for each product. > These companies want to slice and dice every thing and make big bucks. >If you want it all it's an expensive add on. I've talked to many of them >as a dealer, they think they can make more money selling little recording >boxes to bedroom guitar players or DJs. They think and their marketing data >shows that they can make more money selling the little boxes than big DAWs. > > >The attitude is, if you want to play in the big time, you'll go with PT, >SX, or Nuendo with third party hardware. Nobody really wants to go up against >PT because it's already established in the market. > >The other issue is hardware becoming obsolete too quickly.…
creator: animix
date: 2006-10-12T02:35:33-00:00

Re: No mo' Matrox pour moi.....
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description: going a full rack space long & 2 rack spaces deep, >>fer pete's sakes! Not everything has to be a single-space >>and/or a half-racker! >>*** It should have on-board DSP effects - like the TC unit or >>the new/soon to be discontinued EMU stuff, for example. >>price as sucky ones - yes, you can. >>*** It should have an ASIO driver that can allow for up to 16 >>channels/submixes of passive analog summing (or if not that, at >>least DSP summing through something other than the PC's CPU) >>your box & return to 2 new channels in the DAW app - if you can >>do onboard DSP EFX, you can do onboard summing, too, yes sir >>you KNOW you can! >>***Throw in a copy of CubaseLE if you wanna... no need for a >>complete/full-out app like SX or Nuendo - people can indeed buy >>that separately if they want. >>*** MIDI i/o... duh. >>***Absolutely make it expandable to be able to easily link 2 >>or more if someone needs more than 16 analog i/o's at once. >>Encourages people to buy another if they ever want to go that >>route anyway. >>***It should be PCI-based, not Firewire or USB. One card. >>Expansion units can be Firewired together via ports on the >>units themselves, and routed through the same card. Maybe allow >>for a max of 2 units per card to keep costs down... anyone >>needing more than 32 analog i/o's at once will no doubt be in a >>situation where they can go with PCI expansion chassis anyway. >> >>Price point should be ~$1,200 to $1,500, street. >> >>Can you imagine how many of these they could - and more >>importantly WOULD - sell? >><br /
creator: gene lennon
date: 2006-10-12T03:03:03-00:00

Re: No mo' Matrox pour moi.....
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description: ade that connection. >>> >>>If you really want this product, you can make it happen by calling manufactures >>>and telling them what you want, just pick wisely! If you get enough people >>>to call over time things will happen. The price is another story. >>> >>>Many years ago, I told the drum hardware designer at Alesis, that I wanted >>>a drum module with dry drum sounds so I could effect them the way I wanted >>>in the studio. I also told them that I wanted a built in effect processor >>>for live use and studio work. I also wanted more triggers, more outputs, >>>headphone output with volume knob, and a audio in put so I could practice >>>to music. To my surprise, they built it in the DM PRO drum module. >>> >>>I made many suggestions to Greg Mackie that became products. Only problem >>>was, the ideas were bastardize, sliced and diced in to multiple products >>>and they charged three to four times more than I suggested for each product. >>> These companies want to slice and dice every thing and make big bucks. >> >>>If you want it all it's an expensive add on. I've talked to many of them >>>as a dealer, they think they can make more money selling little recording >>>boxes to bedroom guitar players or DJs. They think and their marketing >>data >>>shows that they can make more money selling the little boxes than big DAWs. >>> >>> >>>The attitude is, if you want to play in the big time, you'll go with PT, >>>SX, or Nuendo with third party hardware. Nobody really wants to go up >against >>>PT because it's already established in the market. >>> >>>The other issue is hardware b
creator: aaron allen[1]
date: 2006-10-12T17:07:57-00:00

Re: No mo' Matrox pour moi.....
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description: /www.tcelectronic.com/Default.asp?Id=7618" target="_blank">http://www.tcelectronic.com/Default.asp?Id=7618 >>>> >>>>Seems pretty good, has onboard DSP, taking a load off your >>>>CPU... has a nice monitoring interface - simpler than TotalMix, >>>>coupla mic inputs & DI's, as well, BUT... only has 4 balanced >>>>analog i/o's... so you gotta buy 4 of 'em to do 16 channels >>>>pure. ALSO... no BNC/word clock... WTF? Trying to get >>>>prorietary on us with a unit like THIS!!!??? We have to ONLY >>>>use these together with each other? Can't sync anything-digital- >>>>else??? >>>> >>>>Handy, nice for "semiprosumer" applications, but another >>>>opportunity to really go after the pro market wasted, IMO - >>>>they have the technology, they have the tinker toy set, they >>>>just didn't "go pro" with it... Paris didn't either at the >>>>time, and neither did Emu with their 1812/1212, etc - although >>>>the onboard DSP & good convertors plus a few other features >>>>coulda got them there. Is everyone afraid of alsihad? Is that >>>>it? Is that why all things like this come out as small-time >>>>entrants targeted at price points in the home recording level >>>>only? >>>> >>>>As the subject line says: Close, but no cigar. >>>> >>>>Here's the thing... Yeah there are other options like MADI >>>>units that can get you 1,569,878,760,000 channels of i/o, but >>>>who needs that much, and then you also need a half dozen >>>>lightpipe interfaces, and stringing all that shit together & >>>>making it hum is mickey-mouse, too, IMO. >>>> >>>>Someone needs to developthe following: >>>> >>>>***A superb convertor box with 16 channels in & out, throw in a >>>>couple of d.i./mic pres & lightpipe/SPDIF ports if you want, >>>>but really what the world needs is more single-box 16 channel >>>>interfaces.. with 16 channels of pure analog i/o. Don't be >>>>afraid of going a full rack space long & 2 rack spaces deep, >>>>fer pete's sakes! Not everything has to be a single-space >>>>and/or a half-racker!…
creator: animix
date: 2006-10-12T17:45:20-00:00

Re: No mo' Matrox pour moi.....
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description: hat can allow for up to 16 >>>>>channels/submixes of passive analog summing (or if not that, at >>>>>least DSP summing through something other than the PC's CPU) >>>>>your box & return to 2 new channels in the DAW app - if you can >>>>>do onboard DSP EFX, you can do onboard summing, too, yes sir >>>>>you KNOW you can! >>>>>***Throw in a copy of CubaseLE if you wanna... no need for a >>>>>complete/full-out app like SX or Nuendo - people can indeed buy >>>>>that separately if they want. >>>>>*** MIDI i/o... duh. >>>>>***Absolutely make it expandable to be able to easily link 2 >>>>>or more if someone needs more than 16 analog i/o's at once. >>>>>Encourages people to buy another if they ever want to go that >>>>>route anyway. >>>>>***It should be PCI-based, not Firewire or USB. One card. >>>>>Expansion units can be Firewired together via ports on the >>>>>units themselves, and routed through the same card. Maybe allow >>>>>for a max of 2 units per card to keep costs down... anyone >>>>>needing more than 32 analog i/o's at once will no doubt be in a >>>>>situation where they can go with PCI expansion chassis anyway. >>>>> >>>>>Price point should be ~$1,200 to $1,500, street. >>>>> >>>>>Can you imagine how many of these they could - and more >>>>>importantly WOULD - sell? >>>>> >>>>>I think it can be done for that price point - I mean look at >>>>>various units like the EMu 1812, the TC unit I just linked to >>>>>above, and the RME Multiface... all those units have various & >>>>>sundry of the features I mentioned for around HALF that price >>>>>(Multiface has 8 analog i/o's, plus other digital options, & >>>>>word clock, but no onboard DSP... Emu & TC units have half-ass >>>>>versions of less i/o's and one has no word clock, but both DO >>>>>have DSP EFX) how hard would it be to incorporate all of these >>>>>features I mentioned for twice to slightly more than twice the >>>>>price? >>>>> >>>>>I think the 16-minimum channels of straight-up analog i/o is the >>>>>biggest …
creator: Tom Bruhl
date: 2006-10-12T18:27:11-00:00

Re: No mo' Matrox pour moi.....
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creator: animix
date: 2006-10-12T18:40:30-00:00

Re: No mo' Matrox pour moi.....
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creator: Tom Bruhl
date: 2006-10-12T19:26:04-00:00