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Guerilla mixing
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description: gt; >>> Dedric Terry wrote: >>> >>>> Anyone with Nuendo and/or Samplitude (or the demo) interested in a little >>>> experiment? There has been a hardware test thread on the Nuendo forum that >>>> is claiming RME drivers are way less efficient than Lynx and MOTU - okay, >>>> worth reporting to RME, as long as it's really RME and not Nuendo, but that >>>> part seems to be taboo on the Nuendo forum, so I bailed on posting this >>>> there. >>>> >>>> So, for fun, or out of frustration more likely I decided to compare Nuendo >>>> 3.2 to Samplitude 8.11 (demo) using my RME Digiface (2.94
creator: Deej [1]
date: 2006-03-08T08:49:22-00:00

Re: Guerilla mixing
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description: than if restarted, and it is >>>> slow to reset the audio engine. >>>> >>>> I'm trying to get to the bottom of some longstanding questions I've had >>>> about Nuendo's performance since 3.0, and also since 3.2. Something isn't >>>> right. Any takers to dive into sorting this out? >>>> >>>> The Nuendo forum is too volatile right now. Posting this would just cause >>>> a >>>> flame war and I'm in no mood to get burned. I'm not partial to any >>>> manufacturer - just figuring out where the weak spots are. >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> Dedric >>>> >> >>Dear Edna, Chainer is working fine... I did not claim that I had any problems with Chainer using FX-teleport. EnergyXT might be working too. The latency Paris buffers like to see are over 4096 when working with plugins like FX-teleport Wormhole etc. You can work with lower latencies if you work with EDSTransfer 8,16 but I
creator: rick
date: 2006-03-08T09:40:43-00:00

Re: Guerilla mixing
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description: >>You know, this group could almost be newly titled to include >current >> >>>>> >> >>>>>Paris >> >>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>users and Paris users who have moved on to other systems, or >Paris >> >>> >> >>> users >> >>> >> >>>>>>>>who >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>are using other systems with Paris. For me the greatest loss is >> >> >>>>>>>>>when >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>folks >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>leave Paris and then this NG. I hope you'll stick around. >> >>>>>>>>>Cheers, >> >>>>>>>>>MR >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>"Dave Parkin" <dave@blackbirdstudio.com.au> wrote in message >> >>>>>>>>>news:441d9384$<a href="mailto:1@linux..."
creator: Russ
date: 2006-03-08T14:57:28-00:00

Re: Guerilla mixing
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description: empirical rather than based on any truth. > >In a recent session at another producer's studio (who will remain unnamed), >I listened to some pop-rock mixes done on a Paris rig. The sound was big >and clear and sounded very tape-like. Overall it sounded quite good and not >at all wimpy. The artist however hated the sound. He played us a number of >recent albums known to have been recorded in PT or similar sounding DAWS >as examples of what he wanted. This is the sound he knows and more important >it is the sound he likes! Yikes!! Compressed to a dynamic range of about >10db and very little sense of depth, space or stereo width. > >Music may be universal but we all know it comes with cultural bias. How many >American teens would choose to listen to a steady diet of microtonal music? >Might as well serve up a big plate of Haggis... And it not just teens. Labels >work the exact same way. If someone has a hit record that sounds crappy, >all the labels want the same crappy sound. > >Suddenly I am feeling very old. Fashions change taste changes but I thought >good sound was forever. Perhaps not so. As a producer who still has at least >one toe in the current market, I need to have some awareness of the realities >of the market and the "new sound" is the new sound. > >My personal taste has not changed. For most projects that I foresee myself >working on, I will continue to use Paris, but just as I have made decisions >in the past to use SSL consoles rather than Neves to achieve a more trendy >"Pop" mix, I am now experimenting with ways to capture the "elusive PT sound". >(Insert appropriate emoticon). > >Luckily it was reasonably easy to achieve. I recently purchased the Waves >SSL bundle and running that in Logic can get me very close to the sound of >better sounding PT mixes. So I can still use Paris whenever I like and I >can experiment with a mix of the two styles. > > What does all this mean? Nothing other then I understand why some pe
creator: Deej [1]
date: 2006-03-08T15:09:31-00:00

Re: Guerilla mixing
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description: iddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:443cbb39$1@linux... > > "gene lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote: > >Do I prefer the sound of Paris over other DAWS because > >its actually makes better sounding recordings, or is it because it is closer > >to the sound I associate with my favorite albums from the last 30 years? > > This post reminded me that I haven't listened to the Beatles Let It Be Naked > in a while. ;o) And I do love ths sound of that album. Soft and warm and > analog, but with elements of clarity that only come from digital processing... > > ...but I don't understand what you're getting at? ;o) Hehe... > > ...suffice to say, it's now playing... > > "All through the night, I me mine, I me mine, I me mine..." > > I think you're right though. In a way. > > On one hand I would say I think Paris has a sound, whereas most good digital > systems these days are cold and pure. Hence one could argue Paris is coloured > where other DAWs are not. > > On the other hand, part of me still thinks that air, where the "summing bus" > mathematics is done in nature, may not necessarily be as pure in it's additions > as is a digital DAW. For example, I would think that air, when heavily compressed, > would offer more resistance the more it was compressed. It's not just doing > to keep giving. It will resist more with greater compression. So the louder > the sound, and the more you add sound together, the more you would get a > mild compression effect on the peaks. In analog systems, and possibly Paris, > you get this effect. It's only slight, but it's there. In digital systems > you don't. > > I've never seen or heard anything about how sound works in the air and how > clean the maths is. People seem to assume it to be pure clean maths, but > I find that unlikely. Air is a dirty mixed up substance full of different > gases and particles, and sounds by nature are waves crossing in different > directions, intersecting, and doing all kinds of things. > > Hence, w…
creator: Deej [1]
date: 2006-03-08T16:54:57-00:00

Re: Guerilla mixing
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description: gt; >> >before we even had computers, much less DAWs. It ain't as much about the >> >> >tools as it is about the capturing of the moment. How you do that is >totally >> >> >personal and up to each of us. Sure, I can spank the daylights out a PT >> mix >> >in level with Paris, but then again Paris midi sucks. Use what floats it >> for >> >ya, I say. Use it how it floats it for ya. If it's good, everyone will >know >> >> >it when they hear it, and the means doesn't matter. I still prefer Paris >> in >> >a big way, but I program midi/song structures elsewhere where the 'sound' >> >> >doesn't matter and dump to. >> > >> >AA >> > >> > >> >"TC" <tc@spammetodeathyoubastards.org> wrote in message >> >news:443c155c$1@linux... >> >> Well, >> >> >> >> I use PT HD, Logic 7 and Paris, with considerable investments in all >over >> >> >> the years. >
creator: emarenot
date: 2006-03-08T17:02:30-00:00

Re: Guerilla mixing
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description: > I have not hear the new RME stuff. I would hope that their interfaces got > upgraded in the sound dept. Another card woth mentioning is the M-Audio Audiophile > 192. This cards converters are in aanother league form their (m-Audios) previous > offerings. > > Also, like I stated in another post, E-Muis working on updating their Mixer > app to accmodate multi card usage. > LaMont > > Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote: > >>HI Lamont, >>I agree that yes the RME Digi-968 card designed over 8 years ago by RME > > >>does not sound as good as the higher-end EMU cards. They don't to me >>sound as good as the newer RME converters on the Fireface, Multiface and > > >>their stand alone converters. But there is allot more to making a good >>sounding AD/DA then just the converter chips used. For the money EMU has > > >>done a great job on the hardware design of their converters but hey when > > >>you have the buying power of Creative Labs behind you then I would >>think so. The only things I don't like about the EMU stuff is the mixer > > >>applet. It's way to convoluted for such a simple card. Also the lack of > > >>larger I/O cards but sense they are marketing the stuff mostly to a home > > >>enthusiast market it makes sense why they don't. >> >> >>Chris >> >> >>LaMont wrote: >> >>>Hi Edna, >>>To me, E-Mu cards blows the sonic doors off of RME. In comparisons, the > > RME > >>>cards sounds "stale" & Lifeless. Where as, the E-Mu cards(1212M 1820M) > > sound > >>>alive with depth.. >>>LaMont >>> >>>"Edna" <edna@texomaonline.com> wrote: >>> >>>>Well I just won a 1212m on ebay, nearly new, for $107. It can be upgraded >>>>to the 1820m as I understand it, if desired. The converters are spec'd >>> >>>at >>> >>>>120db. I have been hearing rave reviews on these on some other forums, >>> >>>even >>> >>>>compared to RME. Gonna use it with Samplitude V8 for native system. >>>>E >>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:443abe13$1@linux... >>>> >>>>>Hey Guys, >>…
creator: RZ
date: 2006-03-08T18:09:56-00:00

Re: Guerilla mixing
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description: all over this. Really, this card has >>> >>>the >>> >>>>>samme converters as the Digi HD192. >>>>>I'm hearing things in my Nuendo mixes that I did not hear in my RME > > Digi > >>>>>96 PST that it replaced.. The difference is so clear, that it's really >>>> >>>>make >>>> >>>>>me think twice about ever purchasing another RME interface. >>>>> >>>>>Dedric, now I can mix with full confidence in Nuendo, like I do in Paris >>>>> Wow!! just $200.00 card!! amazing.. >>>>> >>>>>Edmund if you are readingthis post. Please kiss and make with EMU, to >>> >>>make >>> >>>>>a naitive version of Paris (drop the midi sequencer). :)smile.. >>>>>Thanks..LaMont >>>> >>-- >>Chris Ludwig >> >>ADK Pro Audio >>(859) 635-5762 >>www.adkproaudio.com >>chrisl@adkproaudio.com > > -- Chris Ludwig ADK chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/> (859) 635-5762Hi John, Oh no now you've gone and done it. :) John wrote: > Can you describe what your cubase/paris hybrid is and does? > Thanks DJ > > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote: > >>With the exception of a few occasional rough spots here and there, my >>Cubase/Paris hybrid is exactly what I hoped Paris would eventually become. >>Just because Paris stopped doesn't mean we did. I think it's fun to put > > this > >>stuff together and see what it can achieve. >> >>;o) >> >> >> >>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message >>news:443c54af$1@linux... >> >>>Yeah, I still use Paris as main DAW, although I augment with cubase sx. > > I > >>>think of the spirit of this newsgroup to have evolved as those who are >> >>searching >> >>>for the best way to do their thang with music, and share it.... guys and >>>gals that aren't swayed by popular opinion, unless it happens to be the >> >>same >> >>>thing that works for them sonically, or logistically, or ergonomically, > > or > >>>whatever, and are willing to share, or learn. I say, bring it on. If PT > > is > >>>working for y…
creator: EK Sound
date: 2006-03-08T18:30:00-00:00

Re: Guerilla mixing
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description: touchy in the past at times) and I think >>> >>>we >>> >>>>>can all keep an open mind and help each other with good info on various >>> >>>>>platforms. >>>>> >>>>>If someone's moving to HD is going to somehow make another Paris user >>> >>>feel >>> >>>>>"inadequate" about their system, then so be it. Paris can hold it's > > own > >>>>>sonically, and other systems will continue to have more features than >>> >>>>>Paris, but that's just the way it goes. >>>>> >>>>>This place has always been a step above other NG's since I've been >> >>around >> >>>>>here (1998), and it's aways been more about the community here than >>>>>current daw wars.. >>>>> >>>>>Cheers, >>>>> >>>>>TC >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Steve Cox wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Hey John, Point taken...Steve >>>>>>"John" <<a href="mailto:no@no.com"
creator: Kim
date: 2006-03-08T23:36:53-00:00

Re: Guerilla mixing
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description: gt; >>>>>>Austin, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>then PT makes sense. For myself, I'm more in to recording live >>>>>>>>instruments, >>>>>>>>so paris works fine and sounds great. The day a record company wants >>> >>>to >>> >>>>>>>>give me a million dollars to record an album and insist on a SSL > > 9000 > >>>>>>>>and >>>>>>>>a PT system, I'll buy them. When it comes to making a record, and >> >>your >> >>>>>>>talking >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>sound quality, Paris ca
creator: Paul Braun
date: 2006-03-09T03:02:21-00:00

Re: Guerilla mixing
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description: >> >>>>>> >>>>>> to >>>>>> >>>>>>>> move >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> on. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> My Pro Tools rig has arrived, and Im setting it up this week. >> >> >> I >> >>>> bought >>>> >>>>>>>>> a Pro tools HD3 accel PCI-e rig, with a control 24, and a dual 2.0 >>>> >>>> >>>> G5. >>>> >>>>>>>> Hence >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> the excitement. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> paris has treated me well. Ive done a number of records on it >>>>>>>>> that >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> have >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> done quite well here in Australia. I have won Engineer/producer of >>>> >>>> >>>> the >>>> >>>>>>>> year >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> for the last 2 years here in Western Australia, and I truly >>>>>>>>> believe >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Paris >>>>> >>>>>>>>> added something to my sound that other digital studios couldnt >>>>>>>>> achieve. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I am keeping my Paris rig, cuz i cant entirely let go yet. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Cheers to ya all.!!! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dave >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >> -- Chris Ludwig ADK chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/> (859) 635-5762not really.............not in a day, at least. I'd have to hire Thad to write a 90,000 word *picture book* for it. ;o) "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:443cdf7f$1@linux... > > Can you describe what your cubase/paris hybrid is and does? > Thanks DJ > > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote: > >With the exception of a few occasional rough spots here and there, my > >Cubase/Paris hybrid is exactly what I hoped Paris would eventually become. > >Just because Paris stopped doesn't mean we did. I think it's fun to put > this > >stuff together and see what it can achieve. > > > >;o) > > > > > > > >"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message > >news:443c54af$1@linux... > >> > >> Yeah, I still use Paris as main DAW, although I augment with cubase sx. > I > >> think of the spirit of this newsgroup to have evolved as those who are > >searching > >> fo…
creator: John [1]
date: 2006-03-09T12:52:28-00:00

Re: Guerilla mixing
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description: gt; >> >>>> > >> >>>>your > >> >>>> > >> >>>>>getting left behind. When BT left, a lot of people went with him > so > >> to > >> >>>> > >> >>>>speak. > >> >>>> > >> >>>>>For the others that are going to switch, if you got to go, Ok, but > >don't > >> >>>>>drag people away with you by knocking Paris. We need to encourage > >> >>>>>people > >> >>>>>to stick around. This NG is shrinking! > >> >>>>>I remember vary well a certain somebody, who I will leave unnamed; > >> ) > >> >>> > >> >>> raved > >> >>> > >> >>>>>about Nuendo for months on end. Now that certain somebody is not > so > >> > >> >>>>>sure > >> >>>>>that Nuendo is better sounding than Paris! ; ) A couple of guys > >here > >> >>> > >> >>> that > >> >>> > >> >>>>>thought Nuendo was the answer to Paris are now questioning Nuendo. > >> Some<br
creator: Russ
date: 2006-03-09T15:28:08-00:00

Re: Guerilla mixing
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description: ial studio owners have expressed that they have, > or > >> > >> >>>>>are > >> >>>>>considering going with PT because it's "The industry standard". > Many > >> > >> >>>>>feel > >> >>>>>that if they don't jump to PT that they are losing business. For > >some > >> >>> > >> >>> people > >> >>> > >> >>>>>this is the case, and they need to do what they need to do. However, > >> it > >> >>>>>really should be based on the quality of the end result, not the > >> >>>>>equipment > >> >>>>>you use. > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>>Everybody has different needs. For most project studios, there is > >> >>>>>really > >> >>>>>no need for an expensive system like PT, or 2K for Nuendo, plus the > >> cost > >> >>>>>of hardware. If your in a major market like N.Y., L.A., Nashville, > >> or > >> >>> > >> >>> Austin, > >> >>> > >> >>>>>then PT makes sense. For myself, I'm more in to recording live > >> >>>>>instruments, > >> >>>>>so paris works fine and sounds great. The day a record company wants > >> to > >> >>>>>give me a million dollars to record an album and insist on a SSL > 9000 > >> > >> >>>>>and > >> >>>>>a PT system, I'll buy them. When it comes to making a record, and > >your > >> >>>> > >> >>>>talking > >> >>>> > >> >>>>>sound quality, Paris can stand toe to toe with any DAW in the world. > >> > >> >>>>>There > >> >>>>>have been some pretty big records done on Paris, just ask BT. By > the > >> > >> >>>>>way, > >> >>>>>he still mixes with Paris! > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>>Opinions are Ok, but I feel that post about PT that are in effect > >saying > >> >>>>>that PT is better than Paris, are not all that helpful to Paris > >users. > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>>>>"Paul" <paul@nospam.com> wrote: > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>>>Steve, > &g
creator: Deej [1]
date: 2006-03-09T16:28:16-00:00

Re: Guerilla mixing
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description: /> > >> >>>>>times other stuff just sounds different, and initially perceived > as > >> > >> >>>>>being > >> >>>>>better. Of course paris was left behind feature wise, and some > >people > >> >>> > >> >>> love > >> >>> > >> >>>>>the whiz-bang of all that. Others prefer the capabilities and the > >> >>>>>working > >> >>>>>methods of newer software. There will always be something to come > >out > >> >>> > >> >>> that > >> >>> > >> >>>>>will be more slick than Paris. Paris is still pretty slick and vary > >> > >> >>>>>useable. > >> >>>>>When combined with a second DAW for effect processing, Paris becomes > >> > >> >>>>>vary > >> >>>>>hard to beat. > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>>Many Paris commerc
creator: Rich[3]
date: 2006-03-09T17:02:31-00:00

Re: Guerilla mixing
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description: >>>>>>>>>leave Paris and then this NG. I hope you'll stick around. > >> >>>>>>>>>Cheers, > >> >>>>>>>>>MR > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>"Dave Parkin" <dave@blackbirdstudio.com.au> wrote in message > >> >>>>>>>>>news:441d9384$1@linux... > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>Howdy all. > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> Sad but exciting moment has arrived. My last Paris tracking > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> happened > >> >>>>>>>>>>tonight. Six years Paris has been a loyal friend to me, but > its > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>time > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>to > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>move > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>on. > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> My Pro Tools rig has arrived, and Im setting it up this week. > >> >>> > >> >>> I > >> >>> > >> >>>>>bought > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>a Pro tools HD3 accel PCI-e rig, with a control 24, and a dual > >> 2.0 > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>>G5. > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>Hence > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>the excitement. > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> paris has treated me well. Ive done a number of records on > it > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> that > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>have > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>done quite well here in Australia. I have won Engineer/producer > >> of > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>>the > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>year > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>for the last 2 years here in Western Australia, and I truly > >believe > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>>Paris > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>added something to my sound that other digital studios couldnt > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>achieve. > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> I am keeping my Paris rig, cuz i cant entirely let go yet. > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> Cheers to ya all.!!! > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>Dave > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you? > >> >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > >My misunderstanding, I thought you meant that having to use chainer caused extra latency. "Dimitrios" <musurgio@oten…
creator: Deej [1]
date: 2006-03-09T17:29:22-00:00

Re: Guerilla mixing
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description: lto:edna@texomaonline.com" target="_blank">edna@texomaonline.com> wrote: > >Have you any experience with EnergyXT ? There is some talk at the FXT forum > >about this working better with FXT than Chainer. > >E > > > >"DImitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:443a7136$1@linux... > >> > >> Hi, > >> Latencies with network has been always that long... > >> I use Planet ENW-9606 1GB connected without switch but directly with a > >cable > >> , just two computers. > >> I always remember when was using FX-teleport last year had that latency > to > >> work. > >> Actually Paris to work now needs 6112 samples not to loose any sample > .. > >> Hope this helps. > >> Regards, > >> Dimitrios > >> > >> "Edna" <edna@texomaonline.com> wrote: > >> >What nics and switch are you using? That is high latency. > >> > > >> >"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message > >news:443a3743$1@linux... > >> >> > >> >> Hi to all, > >> >> Have been some time posting here... > >> >> Anyway I was tempted by your posts and made my way thru Teleport. > >> >> Teleport 1.03 with chainer working ! > >> >> Teleport 1.04 not working (maybe my setup) > >> >> I use Paris machine as master and other pc as slave. > >> >> Just open theserver icon on slave and then run teleport on master . > >> >> It looks on the vst folder you have vst installed in your slave and > >> >installs > >> >> wherever you say to. > >> >> I have them installed on master at program files/Steinberg/vst > >plugins/fx > >> >> teleport > >> >> Paris cannot see this subfolder . > >> >> Chainer can. > >> >> I tried with one instance of Solid stae logic free compressorand it > >works. > >> >> There is a minimum 4096 delay there but anyway it works. > >> >> Hope this helps. > >> >> Regards, > >> >> Dimitrios > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > >Nothing on earth could suck worse than Totalmix...........could it? "Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message news:443cfe7b@linux... > Hi Lamont, > Yes agreed on the audiophile 192k …
creator: Deej [1]
date: 2006-03-09T17:31:00-00:00

Re: Guerilla mixing
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description: understand it, if desired. The converters are spec'd > >>> > >>>at > >>> > >>>>120db. I have been hearing rave reviews on these on some other forums, > >>> > >>>even > >>> > >>>>compared to RME. Gonna use it with Samplitude V8 for native system. > >>>>E > >>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:443abe13$1@linux... > >>>> > >>>>>Hey Guys, > >>>>> > >>>>>I just got a Emu 1212M interface with the high-end converters. Man,these > >>>>>converters are fanstasic!! I can't believed that EMU sales this level > >>> > >>>of > >>> > >>>>>converter for so little..Their new interface box even has soft-limit > > > > on > > > >>>>the > >>>> > >>>>>converters and better mic pres. > >>>>> > >>>>>This just makes me wonder if ID could make with with EMU and make VSt > >>>> > >>>>version > >>>> > >>>>>of Paris!!(naitive). I would jump all over this. Really, this card has > >>> > >>>the > >>> > >>>>>samme converters as the Digi HD192. > >>>>>I'm hearing things in my Nuendo mixes that I did not hear in my RME > > > > Digi > > > >>>>>96 PST that it replaced.. The difference is so clear, that it's really > >>>> > >>>>make > >>>> > >>>>>me think twice about ever purchasing another RME interface. > >>>>> > >>>>>Dedric, now I can mix with full confidence in Nuendo, like I do in Paris > >>>>> Wow!! just $200.00 card!! amazing.. > >>>>> > >>>>>Edmund if you are readingthis post. Please kiss and make with EMU, to > >>> > >>>make > >>> > >>>>>a naitive version of Paris (drop the midi sequencer). :)smile.. > >>>>>Thanks..LaMont > >>>> > >>-- > >>Chris Ludwig > >> > >>ADK Pro Audio > >>(859) 635-5762 > >>www.adkproaudio.com > >>chrisl@adkproaudio.com > > > > > > -- > Chris Ludwig > ADK > chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com> > www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/> > (859) 635-5762"gene lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote: >When HD was released, the distinction was far less obvious. HD still sounds >different from Paris but not awful anymore, just …
creator: EK Sound
date: 2006-03-09T17:44:38-00:00

Re: Guerilla mixing
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description: gt;> >> >> >> >>>>>have >> >> >>>>>actually come here in the past just to troll, and it didn't help >> our >> >> >> >> >>>>>group >> >> >>>>>much. It is psychological, it makes you feel like your missing >out, >> >> or >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>>your >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>>>getting left behind. When BT left, a lot of people went with him >> so >> >> to >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>>speak. >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>>>For the others that are going to switch, if you got to go, Ok, but >> >don't >> >> >>>>>drag people away with you by knocking Paris. We need to encourage >> >> >>>>>people >> >> >>>>>
creator: dc[3]
date: 2006-03-09T21:11:16-00:00

Re: Guerilla mixing
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description: gt; >>>>>>>> My PT's rig is going very well. It took me and the pro tools >> rep >> >> >>> >> >> >>> less >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>than 48 hours to completely swap over systems. That includes >the >> >> new >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>>console >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>and surrounding furniture. >> >> >>>>>>>> The main difference to me with the mix bus in PT's, as >opposed >> >> to >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>>Paris, >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>is how much larger it is. Its easier to get cloudy in Paris. Im >> >still >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>>running >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>at 48KHz on PT's. Paris certainly was a great way to spend 6 >> >years, >> >> >>> >> >> >>> but >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>>>things >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>really have progressed in the Digidesign world. >> >> >>>>>>>> Just a few thoughts..... >> >> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>Cheers >> >> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>Hey Dave >> >> >>>>>>>>>You know, this group could almost be newly titled to include >> >current >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>>Paris >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>users and Paris users who have moved on to other systems, or >> >Paris >> >> >>> >> >> >>> users >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>who >> >> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>are using other systems with Paris. For me the greatest loss >> is >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>when >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>folks >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>leave Paris and then this NG. I hope you'll stick around. >> >> >>>>>>>>>Cheers, >> >> >>>>>>>>>MR >> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>"Dave Parkin" <dave@blackbirdstudio.com.au> wrote in message >> >> >>>>>>>>>news:441d9384$1@linux... >> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>Howdy all. >> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> Sad but exciting moment has arrived. My last Paris >tracking >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> happened >> >> >>>>>>>>>>tonight. Six years Paris has been a loyal friend to me, but >> its >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>time >> >> >>>>>>> >>…
creator: John [1]
date: 2006-03-10T12:51:23-00:00

Re: Guerilla mixing
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description: > >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>done quite well here in Australia. I have won >Engineer/producer >> >> of >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>>the >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>year >> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>for the last 2 years here in Western Australia, and I truly >> >believe >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>Paris >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>added something to my sound that other digital studios >couldnt >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>achieve. >> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> I am keeping my Paris rig, cuz i cant entirely let go yet. >> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> Cheers to ya all.!!! >> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>Dave >> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you? >> >> >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> > >> > >The reason I have the master word clock is because of the DA7 Digital 32 channel board, an 8 ch. mic pre, and 2 MECs. All locked in at 44.1 Steve "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote: > >"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote: >>huh??? have another beer mate! ;-) > >Well I'm assuming he's running the wordclock to both MEC's...? ...isn't >that OK? > >...or am I missing something? > >...I mean I've never used Wordclock, so I'm only speaking from what I've >read here, but after reading 500 posts on the subject I kinda thought I had >the idea. ;o) > >Cheers, >Kim. > >> >>David. >> >>Kim wrote: >> >>> Correct. If you're losing wordclock that will be fine. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Kim. >>> >>> "Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote: >>> >>>>Not sure if it matters, but I don't really need to bnc the 2 mecs together >>>>do I? as I use a master word clock. The Aardsync. 4 word clock sends, >I >>> >>> have >>> >>>>everything set to 44.1 And I use a Ramsa DA7 motorized fader digital console >>>>for input, also set for 44.1 >>>> >>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote: >>>> >>>>>Don't do as I say, do as I think! ;-) >>>>> >>>>>David. >>>>> >>>>>Kim wro…
creator: John [1]
date: 2006-03-10T12:58:04-00:00

Re: Guerilla mixing
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description: better sounding than Paris! ; ) A couple of guys here >>> >>> >>> that >>> >>>>> thought Nuendo was the answer to Paris are now questioning Nuendo. >>>>> Some >>>>> times other stuff just sounds different, and initially perceived as >>>>> being >>>>> better. Of course paris was left behind feature wise, and some people >>> >>> >>> love >>> >>>>> the whiz-bang of all that. Others prefer the capabilities and the >>>>> working >>>>> methods of newer software. There will always be something to come out >>> >>> >>> that >>> >>>>> will be more slick than Paris. Paris is still pretty slick and vary >>>>> useable. >>>>> When combined with a second DAW for effect processing, Paris becomes >>>>> vary >>>>> hard to beat. >>>>> >>>>> Many Paris commercial studio owners have expressed that they have, >>>>> or are >>>>> considering going with PT because it's "The industry standard". >>>>> Many feel >>>>> that if they don't jump to PT that they are losing business. For some >>> >>> >>> people >>> >>>>> this is the case, and they need to do what they need to do. >>>>> However, it >>>>> really should be based on the quality of the end result, not the >>>>> equipment >>>>> you use. >>>>> >>>>> Everybody has different needs. For most project studios, there is >>>>> really >>>>> no need for an expensive system like PT, or 2K for Nuendo, plus the >>>>> cost >>>>> of hardware. If your in a major market like N.Y., L.A., Nashville, or >>> >>> >>> Austin, >>> >>>>> then PT makes sense. For myself, I'm more in to recording live >>>>> instruments, >>>>> so paris works fine and sounds great. The day a record company >>>>> wants to >>>>> give me a million dollars to record an album and insist on a SSL >>>>> 9000 and >>>>> a PT system, I'll buy them. When it comes to making a record, and your >>>> >>>> >>>> talking >>>> >>>>> sound quality, Paris can stand toe to toe with any DAW in the >>>>> world. There >>>>> have been some pretty big records done on Paris, just ask BT. By >>>>> the way, >>>>>…
creator: Deej [1]
date: 2006-03-11T01:57:14-00:00

Re: Guerilla mixing
type: item
description: >>>>>>> This being a Paris forum and all,.... your post is helping and >>>>>>> encouraging >>>>>>> the Paris users How?? >>>>>>> Steve >>>>>>> "Dave Parkin" <dave@blackbirdstudio.com.au> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Howdy all, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Havent dropped by in a month or so. Ill endeavour to drop by >>>>>>>> still. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Alot >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> of interesting posts to shuffle through.... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My PT's rig is going very well. It took me and the pro tools rep >>> >>> >>> less >>> >>>>>>>> than 48 hours to completely swap over systems. That includes the new >>>> >>>> >>>> console >>>> >>>>>>>> and surrounding furniture. >>>>>>>> The main difference to me with the mix bus in PT's, as opposed to >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Paris, >>>>> >>>>>>>> is how much larger it is. Its easier to get cloudy in Paris. Im >>>>>>>> still >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> running >>>>> >>>>>>>> at 48KHz on PT's. Paris certainly was a great way to spend 6 years, >>> >>> >>> but >>> >>>>>>> things >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> really have progressed in the Digidesign world. >>>>>>>> Just a few thoughts..... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hey Dave >>>>>>>>> You know, this group could almost be newly titled to include >>>>>>>>> current >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Paris >>>>> >>>>>>>>> users and Paris users who have moved on to other systems, or Paris >>> >>> >>> users >>> >>>>>>>> who >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> are using other systems with Paris. For me the greatest loss is >>>>>>>>> when >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> folks >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> leave Paris and then this NG. I hope you'll stick around. >>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>> MR >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Dave Parkin" <dave@blackbirdstudio.com.au> wrote in message >>>>>>>>> news:441d9384$1@linux... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Howdy all. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sad but exciting moment has arrived. My last Paris tracking >>>>>>>>>> happened >>>>>>>>>> tonight. Six years Paris has bee…
creator: Deej [1]
date: 2006-03-11T02:09:32-00:00